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#293 of 4972 Farewell Malibu!
Jan 08, 2001 (4:14 pm)
I just wanted to say that I've recently totaled out my Malibu, and upgraded to a Pontiac GP GT.
I'm going to xpost that post here, just because its pretty awesome, and hopefully to at least let everyone know that even though I and many others are not overly happy with some aspects of the car, it does at least appear to be relatively safe.
I'll check back periodically, but at least for now I'm hoping many of the problems I've had in the past are not going to reoccur with the Grand Prix line.
BTW, I just had to double check the specs myself, and parked the GP next to a Malibu. The GP is just about the same length, and width. Weighs perhaps 200# more, but is much lower and has a wider center of gravity. Also, I just can't say how happy I am with the handling of the car, especially taking turns at speed... that anti-roll enhanced sway bar stuff really kicks a## !
If anyone is even thinking of dumping their Malibu, I'd really have to give the GP a thumbs up. I never got more than 22 MPG freeway, and now I've got this brutally fast 3.8L, and I think I'm getting closer to 28 MPG, and I drive fast.
Check it out. And, unless you can get one of those sweet mid-90's cool a## Impala's, don't look at a Chevy again.
Well, I said I'd never buy another GM after my crappy '97 Malibu....
My Malibu which has been somewhat problematic brake-wise, just got totaled on the freeway, and surprisingly it held up pretty good.
Had a giant Toyota Tundra V8 swerve from lane 3 to lane 1 and ram me into the concrete guardrail at ~60 MPH. Surprisingly, he did not 'bounce' off me, but stayed stuck to me, and actually gave me an honest to goodness James Bond moment.
In CA, the freeways usually have 4 foot cocrete lane dividers seperating N/S-E/W traffic. If you take a look at one, you'll notice that the bottom of the divider ( Jersey wall per CHP), it is wider and tapers up about 6-8 inches before becoming truely vertical.
Well, let me just say that that is one hell of a killer design. The Toyota hit me so hard that its driver's front wheel actually broke off and was flung across the freeway.So, I guess he hit me at around maybe 50 MPH, wheel broke off, and he was left jammed into the passenger front of my car. Pushed me into the jersey wall. Above the incredible shreiking as he had his brakes locked up, I heard my drivers side wheels hit the wall, and both blow out. Also heard a really wicked grinding, crunching wail that just went on and on. After 4-5 seconds, suddenly felt me car lifting up!! I drove right up the damn wall, and actually was about vertical. The truck was still jammed into my passenger front fender, roof now, and my car was up on its passenger side wheels.
I tell you, there nothing like looking out your windshield and seeing the world sideways, with the freeway looking like a wall all along your passenger side of the windshield.
Needless to say, after about 7-8 seconds, the truck dropped off finally, and I literally drove down the side of the wall and stopped. Thankfully, besides minor whiplash, both my girlfriend and I were ok.
The funny thing is, aside from some minor pre-existing dings on the drivers side, there was a small scratch on the rear fender, and no other damage from the wall.
I tell you, what I wouldn't give to have been in the car behind me and to have seen this accident.
In the end, it was a 5 car pile up, and the Toyota had actually swerved to avoid an accident in front of him, and lost control after he was clipped on his passenger front.
So, why am I posting here?
Well, I just replaced the Malibu with a 2000 GT.
Now, I bought an '88 w/90K in '96 for $3300. Thought I got a good deal. Ran it into the ground, and blew the engine at 180K. Actually put a new engine in it for $2000, and sold it a few months later in Oct 98 for about $2200. I have to say, even with that pukey 2.8L it was not a bad car.
So, fast forward several years, had several memebers of family buy Grand Ams, Grand Prixs, everyone has had good luck, aside from the general rotor problems exisiting up to I think the new '97 versions.
My dad got the GM employee discount on a 99 SE, and when I visited last I thought it was just great. So, after doing a lot of research the past week or so, settled on the GP as a replacement.
Had the chance to get a nice 98 SE w/29K for $12000, but kept looking. Yesterday, found a 2000 GT, 29K. The salesman was new, and didn't quite realize or later mention to the Sales Mgr. that the car had a Blaupunkt 12 disk changer in the trunk......
So, went in, and following Edmunds excellent tutorials, made an offer of $15K.
They sort of gawked, and sputter that they were asking $17.6, and couldn't go down that low. Also, as a SafeAmerica FCU, they told me that the best they could do for a 'member' was $15.8. I stuck to my guns, and mentioned that the Pontiac dealer down the street had the same vehicle ( minus CD) 2000 GT Coupe w/29K for $15.7 sticker.
End of story, made it clear I wasn't going to dicker, and would walk.
Got it for $15k straight, +tax/doc/lic.
I guess this is about $600 below Edmunds TMV, so I'm laughing to myself thinking I got a good deal.
Anyone care to confirm, or could I have gotten it even cheaper?
I do have a few questions though. I will read the previous threads, but are there any 'problems' with this model, like rotors, etc?
From the research I did, most people seem to be pretty happy, and haven't read of any major, systemic problems with the line, but it is a GM afterall.
For comparison, you might want to take a look at the Malibu forum, and see the hassles we've had with that line.
Anyways, thanks for any advice/suggestions you might have.
#294 of 4972 Dashmat for '01 LS
Jan 08, 2001 (8:58 pm)
I purchased my new LS on New Years day. Have over 400 miles on it now. No problems. Driving is fun again......
I am having difficulty ordering a dashmat for it. On the dashmat.com website you cannot order for an '01 Malibu, just '00. Same at my local Checker auto parts store. Can someone verify that the dash is the same as '00? Don't want to have to order it from the dealer tomorrow when I go in for tinting. - they want more money than Checker. Thanks.
#296 of 4972 Y2K Chevy Impala LS
Jan 09, 2001 (8:56 am)
Is the same exact car as the '00/'01 Pontiac Grand Prix GT. Both share the same W-body platform, have the same exact transmission and have the same exact 3800 Series II V-6 engine that puts 200 ponies at the front wheels. Actually, the Impala is a bit strobger than the Grand Prix since it already meets 2003 Government safety standards while the Grand Prix only meets 1997 Government standards.
Sorry to disgress, bu the 94-96 Impala SS were ugly "whaled" sized Caprice sedans with a 5.7L V-8 engine and RWD. Aside from the nice looking wheels (Which the Y2K Impala LS gets) and the monochromatic paint scheme, the old Impala SS is a plain ugly car with a signature 'Grand Ma' interior. Been in one, driven one and aside from the power, I don't personally care for them. The Y2K Impala with the 3800 V-6 can easily out run the 94-96 Impala SS (The new Impala is lighter hence it posts similar 0-60 and 1/4 mile times and better fuel economy to boot) and outhandles it as the new Impala is much more nimble and ease to manuver than the old mid 1990's whalemobile.
Anyway, the W-body cars have much better reliability than the N-bodies (Malibu, Alero, Grand AM) and very recent W-body sedans haven't had any brake related problems as opposed to the N-bodies. Rest assure that the 3800 engine and the powertrain combo is bulletproof and with proper care you can expect to squeeze more than 200,000 miles.
Don't say, don't look at Chevy again. The Y2K Impala is in a very different quality and reliability class than the Malibu..no comparison.
Enjoy your 'new' Pontiac GP..it is a beatiful car!
#297 of 4972 need some A/C info
Jan 09, 2001 (3:59 pm)
I had some Air Conditioning work done and now when I turn on my car the button defaults to the intake of outside air and when I switch my fan from on to off and I had it set to re circulate it switches back to outside air intake. If anyone can check their malibus to see if when you set your AC to re circulated air does it go back to re circulated air automatically when you turn the car off then back on or does it set to outside air intake. The dealer tells me this is how it is, I did not want to make him show me another car and be proven wrong so I took his word for it but I just can't help finding out if it is that way for everyone.
#298 of 4972 what the heck??
Jan 09, 2001 (7:55 pm)
Hello all. I have a 98 malibu with 54000 miles and no problems until tonight. I parked the car at work and came out to find it will not start. Engine sounds ok when cranking and all power options work except the dashboard. it usually looks like a Christmas tree when the key is turned on, now it is dark, no idiot lights, no mileage indicator, nothing on the dash.. I checked as many of the fuses as I could see and all looked k. Anyone out there have any ideas? I live 90 miles from the closest dealer and do not wish to have it towed except as a last resort.. many thanks
Jan 10, 2001 (10:21 am)
I have the same problem last year when the dealer service my control unit ( the one with all the swicthes and knobs). They replaced it with a new one and it switches to outside when you turn
on the fan or start the car (even you are not on defrost). But the worst thing is when you switch
to recirculate the AC compressor will engage (turn on) even when you are in heat and the AC
switch is not on. So if you use recirculate, the AC is on all the time which waste fuel and your car won't be warm fast enough in cold day. I showed them what happened and they agreed that the AC compressor indeed engages. They said they call GM and said that is the new design to prevent fogging (?) I said it's BS and insisted on them. To please me, they pull a brand new comtrol unit out of stock and installed it infront of me ( only take 3 minnutes to do it). Same thing happened. One note is that it is a different part number. THey said the old way was discontinued.
The new PN shows up on the computer. Anyway, I have a 2000 Malibu rented last year on one of my business trip and it does not behave like that. I think it might happen to a certain lot of parts because no one in their right might to design it like that unless they smoke something.
#300 of 4972 kduong1 - A/C
Jan 10, 2001 (11:20 am)
From what you are saying, it makes some sense to me. When you recirculate air in the car, there will eventually be a build up of humidity (mostly from you, and rain/snow brought in). The air conditioner will remove the humidity to prevent fogging (like they said). I agree that it wastes gas, and I am not sure when they changed the design, but it seems to make sense. Out of curiosity, why do you feel the need to recirculate the air in your car? Yes, re circulating the air will heat up the interior of you car more quickly, but if you have problems with clearing the windows, it might work better to run fresh air in. On cold (less than 32 degrees) days, the humidity is usually pretty low and the fresh air coming in would be able to clear the windows more quickly than recirculating the humid air in the car.
Does this make sense? Just a few ideas.
#301 of 4972 A/C info
Jan 15, 2001 (9:25 am)
I have 2001 and it behaves exactly what has been defined above. I agree it is good to prevent fogging. One thing I know bad about keeping switch to recirculate all the time, its the main cause of mold in the vents! and I have seen this problem in the posts here months ago.
#302 of 4972 gimme control of my car
Jan 16, 2001 (1:01 pm)
timmyg71>> Out of curiosity, why do you feel the need to recirculate the air in your car?
You, like many of the automakers, seem to have forgotten the benefits of recirculating air:
1) When that A/C can't keep up on a hot day, recirculate.
2) When stuck behind an old, diesel truck.
3) Going through a dust plume.
4) Driving through Gary, Indiana.