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Chevrolet Malibu, Sedan
#1417 of 4972 robertp4 & buguy,
Feb 04, 2003 (8:18 pm)
Man, someone is making money off you folks.
The water pump kit is about $150, that is a new water pump too.
Water pump R&R is about 6 hours.
So figuring a high $85/hour, that brings it to $580,plus incidentals of about another $60
Which brings it to $640.
Now, the part that YOU should pay close attention to is the parts in the TSB I have made bold.
Water Pump Weep (Install Coolant Collector) #01-06-02-012 - (11/30/2001)
Water Pump Weep (Install Coolant Collector)
1996-1998 Buick Skylark
1996-2002 Chevrolet Cavalier
1997-1999 Chevrolet Malibu
1996-1998 Oldsmobile Achieva
1999-2001 Oldsmobile Alero
1996-2001 Pontiac Grand Am
1996-2002 Pontiac Sunfire
with 2.4L Engine (VIN T - RPO LD9)
Some owners may comment on leakage of a few drops of coolant after parking their vehicle. A technician may notice that the water pump may show a staining around the weep hole.
The occasional drop of coolant and the staining may be the evidence of normal coolant weepage. The weep hole prevents normal coolant weepage from accumulating around the bearing seal. For more information on this normal condition, refer to Corporate Bulletin Number 00-06-02-009.
Replacing the water pump for this normal weepage is likely to result in a repeat of the customer concern. To address customer concerns and promote customer satisfaction, a coolant collector has been developed to trap and absorb normal weepage of the pump. The coolant collector is a hinged, two-part collar that easily snaps around the neck of the water pump. Installing this new part is quick and effective and reduces unnecessary water pump replacement.
The coolant collector has a limited capacity to absorb coolant. If diagnosis with a pressure test of the coolant system indicates a failed pump seal, or if the customer concern is for coolant consumption, installing the coolant collector will not correct the condition.
Coolant Collector Installation
Raise and suitably support the vehicle. Refer to Lifting and Jacking the Vehicle in the General Information subsection of the applicable Service Manual.
Place the open hinged coolant collector around the narrow neck area of the water pump. Position the hinged portion towards the front of the vehicle. Close the coolant collector, ensuring the tongue enter the latch. Exert pressure to lock the coolant collector in place until an audible click is heard, which ensure retention.
Lower the vehicle.
The coolant collector is available as part of an updated water pump kit and is also available separately.
Part Number Description Qty
12573729 Coolant Collector 1
Parts are currently available from GMSPO.
For vehicles repaired under warranty, use:
Description Labor Time J3701
Water Pump, Coolant Collector - Install 0.3 hr
#1418 of 4972 waterpump drooling
Feb 05, 2003 (5:05 am)
Opatience....great information. I have been fortunate. no leaks or noise from mine in almost 75,000 miles. Hoping it doesn't start leaking. I can't remember ever hearing of another engine/waterpump combination that is more difficult to replace. This coolant collector seems like more of an appeasement than a waterpump fix. In the past when the pump leaks out the weep hole it means replacement is advised in short order. GM thinks if you keep from seeing the antifreeze under the car all is well! I think it is more likely a way to keep the EPA from yelling about contaminations in the ground under our cars. And I though Ford had all the "better ideas!"
#1419 of 4972 Add One more to List For Coolant Leak
Feb 05, 2003 (9:19 am)
1998 Malibu - 55800 miles.
Intake manifold gasket leaking coolant.
$690 repair plus additional cost of oil and coolant change.
#1420 of 4972 Water pump leaks
Feb 05, 2003 (12:04 pm)
I don't know about the specific problems related to the 2.4L engine, but a few years ago I had an Olds Firenza with a 4-banger, and about one week after it went out of warranty, I started getting a minor leak at the water pump. It looked like a major project to replace the pump, so I added a can of "Bars Leak" to the radiator. The leak stopped within a couple of hundred miles, and the next time I flushed the radiator, I put in another can. I think the Firenza had about 90K miles when I traded it, and never added another drop of anti-freeze after the Bars Leak treatment. I would certainly try that before I spent hundreds on a water pump..just a thought.
Feb 05, 2003 (3:11 pm)
Tamu, could you be so kind and post the link to that page about the malibu quility, that will be wonderful. Thanks alot.
Feb 06, 2003 (3:15 am)
djoller1, sorry to hear about your coolant leak! Could you please tell us if you've ever replaced your coolant prior to leakage? If yes, how many miles you had when you changed it? Thanks!
Feb 06, 2003 (8:47 am)
Thanks alot Tamu, that is pretty interesting. I'm glad to see. I really wish chevy would use that info in the advertising.
Also, i had a coolant leak also. It was a long time ago though. I still had under 36000 miles, cause it was fixed under factory warranty. Not only did i have a coolant leak, but from the same spot, they said i also had a oil leak. They replaced something, and tightened something else, and fixed. Haven't come up again since. Now i have 120,000 miles.
Also, some very sad news. I have detected my first rattle in my car the other day. It's soft almost faint, but I can still hear it.
#1425 of 4972 Chevy does
Feb 06, 2003 (12:27 pm)
I've seen a Malibu ad several times on TV in the last month where they mention they beat Accord and Camry in initial quality. Problem is, it will take time to convince a lot of people that it's not just a fluke and that American based car makers do make good cars now.
I know it, but like the girl who sits next to me in the office says, "Honda or Toyota or nothing". Can't change her mind no matter what.
#1426 of 4972 RE: Malibu's award
Feb 06, 2003 (1:11 pm)
Before we start parading the down Main Street touting that Malibu beats the Accord an dCamry in Initial Quality, take a closer look at the report again. The Malibu is not even in the same category as the Accord or Camry. The Malibu won the award for Mid-size entry. The Accord and Camry are in the premium midsize category although Buick Century did win that category.
It's still nice to see that Malibu has improved.