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Volkswagen Jetta, Sedan
#5074 of 12749 Justin, Newcar & PF...
May 06, 2002 (9:02 am)
Justin & Newcar: The VW 2.0 engine has been known for using a quart or more of oil in 1000 miles. They say a quart's normal, but it doesn't sound it to me. The rings are what cause the car to burn oil. I have not heard of any 2002 cases though.
PF: The 2.0 engine in the Golf, NB, Jetta, and Cabrio is the same engine. Basically the same since like 1994 or something.
#5075 of 12749 Gas recommendations...
May 06, 2002 (9:04 am)
In the owner's manual, it says premium is RECOMMENDED for both VR6s, the 1.8T, AND the 2.0 as well! No way I would be putting premium in the 2.0 engine. I had been using regular in my 1.8T (I say "had", because it will be 2 weeks on Wednesday since the car went in the shop and hasn't come out yet), and with no problems. Still the same performance and fuel economy. Premium is running $1.75 or so a gallon in Baltimore, compared to $1.50 or so for regular. That adds up when you drive about 500 miles a week, as I do.
#5076 of 12749 protege fan
May 06, 2002 (9:07 am)
It says it recommends to use 91 octane minimum (for best performance).
Using 87 is fine though, because it has knock sensors.
#5077 of 12749 Perhaps "oil consumption" is a better term...
May 06, 2002 (9:28 am)
For what it's worth, my 96 Plymouth Neon DOHC has never consumed a detectable amount of oil. I developed a leak which was repaired, but other than that my dipstick has always shown full for 93,000 miles. If Chrysler can manage that, than I don't see how VW can't. I also recall that when I lived in Germany most of the 80s model BMWs used oil, the tell tale blue smoke being the evidence of this. The ultimate oil-burning machine?? I've read in other forums/threads that the v6 in the Passat and older Audi A4 used alot of oil, and the dealer technicians said it was normal. My sister has never complained about her 1.8t using oil, and I've never heard of it being an issue with the VR6, least I hope not since that's what I'm getting.....
May 06, 2002 (9:50 am)
You are right, the Audi/VW 2.8L V6 is also an oil hog. I think oil consumption is understandable in a super high performance motor like what is found in a 911 Porsche. I know that 911s use oil, but they also hold more than 12 quarts so it would be next to impossible to run that engine out of oil. OTOH, the VW 2.0L is far from a high output motor and it only holds 4 quarts of oil. If VW says that 1 quart per 1000 miles is acceptable and recommends 5000 mile oil change intervals, you will run out of oil before it needs to be changed. IMO, that is REALLY messed up, especially since most people don't even check their oil.
#5079 of 12749 Newcar...
May 06, 2002 (9:53 am)
You know, I never thoguht about that. The 2.oL VW engine does hold 4 quarts, and I hardly ever check the oil in my car. I also didn't know that the Porsche held so much oil either.
Also, the 2.0L engine is recommended to have oil changes at 10,000 miles, not 5000. One of my co-workers has a 2001 2.0 Jetta, and the manual said to change the oil every 10,000 miles.
May 06, 2002 (10:20 am)
for the info. i understand better now. to me, as long as the car isn't LEAKING oil, or making blue smoke, then i don't mind. checking the oil is a good idea. i check mine every weekend. if people choose not too, regardless of the car, they are just begging for trouble in my opinion.
May 06, 2002 (10:31 am)
Paul, is the 10,000 recommendation for "severe service"? If the car was using a quart every 1000 miles, you would have changed the oil 2.5 times by adding when 10,000 rolls around. Maybe thats why VW is so confident in such a long interval. Just a thought.
Justin, checking your oil is a good idea. Even though I never had to add any to my old Integra, I checked it anyways every time I got gas. You never know. With the VW 2.0L, checking the oil is just as important as putting gas in the car. I won't speak for anyone else, but to me, this is unacceptable in a brand new car. I expect to see oil containers in rusted out 78' Grand Torinos, not brand new Jettas. The thing is, many people don't have a clue about cars and never check anything...that's where the trouble starts.
May 06, 2002 (11:48 am)
The 10,000 mile oil change interval specified for 2.0L & TDI. There's no "severe" schedule.
The 1.8T and I think VR6 (might be on the 10,000 mile), call for a 5,000 mile oil change.
With the 2.0L, there is a TSB, which requires an engine rebuild, which puts in thicker piston rings to reduce the oil comsumption.
May 06, 2002 (12:13 pm)
10,000 miles. I guess it makes it that much cheaper for VW to give free oil changes up to 20,000 miles. After they got rid of the free oil changes, I wonder if VW changed the interval?