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#3415 of 12749 The Jetta has been an important
by razorclam
Jan 24, 2002 (4:28 am)
building block in the company's positive direction since '94. That direction, logically, is to take on BMW, Mercedes, Lexas, et al. And why not??!! The W8 can be looked at as a bargain as an AWD, 8cyl., euro/luxo sedan under 40k. By offering the Jetta/Golf in the same showroom for under 20k is something BMW cannot dream of. Also, at least here in the Seattle area, $4k 1996 Jetta's are scarce. It's 2.0l engine is not that doggy at all. It's perfectly suited for it's design, and still modable for sure. Remember too that 1994 to '98 Jetta's are 300 lbs. lighter than the current ones. Granted the mid and high end are not what a 1.8T revs like, but it can easily feel solid at 100mph. We have both a B5.5 1.8T, and a 2.0 (1995) Jetta Std. trans., so I can tell the Jetta's power is good enough.(IMHO) Why is it that some people can't see that growth of market segment for VW, is a good thing?? Word is VW may be entering world rally racing too!! Enjoy your 2.0 Jetta!!
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Steve A.
Jan 24, 2002 (7:12 am)
I mean, for ME, I would only buy a 2.0 in the Cabrio. But, the 2.0 is the workhorse, and sales prove it. It must not be that bad. And again, if it is, what does that say? It IS the best selling engine in the Jetta line-up. People can choose to buy the turbo and VR6, but most don't. That means the rest of the car is extremely desirable. Why is it that people that don't agree with that statement, can't seem to understand that is it true? Why else would someone buy the car?
Let's face it. People that buy VW's are not rich. So, I for one have better things to worry about than petty little "might happen" problems. Like how to get a hold of more money!!
#3417 of 12749 Traction and other stuff...
by vocus
Jan 24, 2002 (8:08 am)
The 17-inch tires in the Sport Package provided good traction in the snow we got here in Md. last Saturday. I had no trouble at all. The one time I did spin a little, the ASR caught me right away.
Teo: If you can't come in here without having something nasty to say, then get out. You do that in every single room but the Impala room. You always have something nasty to say about every other car out there but your beloved dear piece of crap. Anyway, get over it. Impalas have been recalled several times for stuff, Chevrolet's customer service sucks big butt, and the Impala is a car that's marketed toward 50 somethings. So if you can't come in here and say something nice, then don't come in at all.
Jan 24, 2002 (8:14 am)
Since when do you OWN this forum?
See, VW fans can't take heated debate, they just melt like butter in a pan....
I have news for you: I am here to stay.
Jan 24, 2002 (9:22 am)
<<why are you so sure the G35 will offer more performance the Acura TL Type-S? i just don't see it that way. when the tl finally gets it manual, chances are it will be much better than anything nissan offers. >>
Near 50/50 weight distribution because it's running on that new chassis...the same one to be used for the 350 Z. Nissan's VQ has something the TL Type-S has very little of: Torque. The G will offer more torque and more displacement, plus no Honda VTEC (yahoo!). Considering the G's suspension is an updated all aluminum version of their classic multilink I can't see how the G35 will be anything but a nice handling, spirited drive. But most importantly, the G35 is RWD compared to the TL's performance retarding FWD. Combine the near perfecr VQ engine, the weight distribution, the suspension and RWD and I can't fathom how the TL Type-S will ever be able to hang with a G. Of paramount importance in my purchase decision, the TL Type-S doesn't offer the most important thing to me: fun.
#3420 of 12749 tl-s vs. g35?
by justin
Jan 24, 2002 (9:59 am)
no question - buy the Jetta or Passat. Passat will have 225 hp in day now. Then you get good looks and blue interior lights
TL-S and G35. I like the G looks wise, but it is not, and never will be, a VW. And the Honda TL-S is a kick-butt value. For someone's Mom....
#3421 of 12749 Blueguy
by teo
Jan 24, 2002 (10:02 am)
If I were you I would also wait to check out the G35 sedan, altough I am not sold on some of its looks but it should be a heck of a ride.
As a second option, the BMW 3 series is a serious contender and the benchmark of the class. A true RWD 50/50 German driver's car, unlike VW's...
Jan 24, 2002 (10:17 am)
Definitely. I love the engine in my VW, but that's about it. I settle into the seat of a 3 Series and it's a little slice of heaven. Really the only stumbling block with the 3...the price. And the fact that the M3 exists and therefore I'd feel silly getting any 3 that didn't have gills and M tuning. 333 hp inline 6...yummy.
Passat? FWD and no power and poor handling. No thanks. Snazzy looking car lowered and with 18s though. Real snazzy. Too bad VW doesn't have an S tuning option like Audi (can anyone else imagine how killer the new A4 is gonna be with S mods?) or like Mazda's just started MPS line (they're talking about a 275 HP MPS supercharged, lowered Tribute).
Jan 24, 2002 (10:17 am)
The 3 series is the benchmark? This newsflash coming from an obviously world class car aficionado, having a Chevy Impala and all.
What is this "true" German engineering thing supposed to mean?
Jan 24, 2002 (10:21 am)
have you driven a 3 series for a few days? it must be the M3 thing that is so great. the 2002 325Ci with luxury and sport suspension package is nothing to write home about. the audi, yes, beautiful performance sedan. but the BMW 3 series is purely a wannabe status car. the 325Ci steering might as well be an old GM power steering unit. when you turn the wheel, you actually have to turn it back yourself. the jetta is tight and you have to fight it almost. not the BMW. just like my dad's old 77 Custom Cruiser by Oldsmobile. Now that wood-grained car was a benchmark....