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#11021 of 12742 avoid the 2.0 by blueguydotcom Apr 26, 2003 (12:34 pm)
the 2.0 is well known for being a n oil-burning nightmare. go for the tdi or 1.8T.
#11022 of 12742 New Jetta by chmeeee Apr 26, 2003 (12:47 pm)
I would seriously look at the TDI, depending on how much you drive. The maintenance costs really are not that bad, especially if you are willing to do oil changes yourself. The oil is more expensive, but the oil changes are only every 10,000 miles.   I love the way it drives, it has a lot of torque. I definitely suggest test driving one. You will love going 600-800 miles between stopping at a gas station.   As far as the 2.0 goes, I have a friend with a 95 Golf with 117,000 miles on it. The only problems he really has right now is the doorlocks are all falling apart on him (obviously not engine related). The 2.0 is still the same basic design now.
#11023 of 12742 TDI by jtrujillo86 Apr 27, 2003 (10:37 am)
I drive about 30-40 miles a day. I'm really taking a beating the gas stations with my 97 Malibu. At the most I'm getting 19 miles per gallon with the 3.1 liter V6. If I change the oil in the TDI myself, on average how much would it cost me? I do my own oil changes on the Malibu and it can't be at all hard on the TDI. The only down side to the TDI is the initial cost. The TDI is about $3,000 more than the 2.0 GL here in the Denver area, and for a 16 year old in school, that's a little hard to scrape up. I am working 2 jobs to save...I'll do anything to get a Jetta!!!
#11024 of 12742 oil changes by chmeeee Apr 27, 2003 (1:53 pm)
I find that it averages out to about $50 per oil change doing it myself every 10k miles. $25 for oil and filter (using the best stuff money can buy, could be as low as $18 if I bought Shell oil instead). Every 20,000 miles you need a new fuel filter which runs about $50. So about $100 of maintanence for 20k miles. You will also need a new timing belt at 100k miles, which is pretty expensive ($300-400).   My costs come out to about the same as they were for my old Lumina (same 3.1 V6 in fact), which had 4000 mile oil changes.   Also, its easier to change the oil, if anything, on the TDI, because the filter is a drop in cartridge right on top of the engine.
#11025 of 12742 jtrujillo86 by 8u6hfd Apr 28, 2003 (4:09 am)
$3000 price difference?   Are you comparing a 2.0GL to a TDI GLS?
#11027 of 12742 Problems by chmeeee Apr 28, 2003 (5:38 am)
Sphere: It sucks that you've had all those problems, I won't argue with that, but it sure sounds like you got a lemon.   For every 1 story like that, there are 100s of people with no problems at all, but you won't here from nearly as many of them, because who comes to a board to complain that they have no problems?
#11028 of 12742 by blueguydotcom Apr 28, 2003 (6:03 am)
For every 1 story like that, there are 100s of people with no problems at all, but you won't here from nearly as many of them, because who comes to a board to complain that they have no problems?   The stats on VWs totally refute the concept that only 1 out of 100 will suffer problems. If VW is churning out 2-3-4 problems per brand new car per year then the odds are quite good someone will suffer some malfunction. Almost every 1.8T owner received a recall notice...you own a 2000-2002 1.8T the odds are quite good you received a notice that your car's engine will experience a malfunction unless you bring it in for service. And that's for the few who didn't have problems. Window regulators...ahem, that's for all Jettas prior to 2003.
#11029 of 12742 by fish8 Apr 28, 2003 (7:04 am)
I totally disagree with blueguy. Newer, later '02 models and 03 GL's with the 2.0 engine DO NOT have oil burning issues. I have a 2002 2.0 and my car has not used a single drop of oil in over 14k miles. There may be other reasons not to get the 2.0 (e.g. power), but saying that oil burning is still an issue is not true. So, don't use that as a factor in choosing the GL.
#11030 of 12742 blueguy by Anakin Apr 28, 2003 (9:03 am)
blueguy is our resident jetta curmudgeon.   The only problem I have ever had was the coilpack issue, for which there was a recall. I paid nothing for the repair, and I had my car back the next day.

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