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#912 of 2635 Carnaught
Jul 29, 2002 (10:14 pm)
No wish to open old wounds...
After I re-read the oldest posts in this forum, I realized why you are so upset with your Cadillac experience.
Even though 2000 was the first year of the new DeVille design, the problems you had are among the worst I have read or heard about and should not happen even in a first year design. I thought I had some tales to tell about my former Chrysler LHS, but they are as nothing compared to your constant aggravations. The service worker joyriding your car on the weekend had to be like salt in your wounds. I'm a bit surprised that you didn't pursue the lemon law remedies.
I trust you are much happier in your current situation.
#913 of 2635 hydra2...thanks for your
Jul 30, 2002 (3:56 pm)
...understanding words. My problems with my DTS were not applicable to lemon laws as they were all different problems that happened with the car. Lemon laws refer to the same recurrent problem(s), which cannot be fixed and/or which remain a problem(s). Anyway, I did enjoy the crimson pearl beauty when everything was in working order.
#914 of 2635 Year end 2002's
Aug 01, 2002 (6:16 am)
I'm looking at what dealers have left in the base and DTS models. Can anyone that has purchased recently tell me if invoice less the rebate is the going rate? Thanks. Jack
Aug 01, 2002 (7:46 pm)
I can get a new 02 base, crimson paint,roof,bose,
chromies, bunwarmers f&r 45k sticker
for 35k with rebate and GMS employee discount
minus 2k Cad bonus cert and gm mc card points.
But I can get a 02 base used 17k miles for
25k american in Canada !
Used 02 base Devilles in syracuse ny for 29k
All prices plus tax and tag.......
#916 of 2635 thanks sonjaab
Aug 02, 2002 (11:08 am)
Aug 09, 2002 (8:35 am)
That Deville in Canada is a 01. Salesman
pulling my chain ! So tired of waiting for
a Caddy dealer to do gm employee deal on
a CTS !
Found a 02Deville base Pearl Red, bose,
chromies,bose, roof , bun warmers for
45k sticker......With rebate, 2k caddy
loyalty cert.,gm employee discount and
gm MC bonus cash 30K plus tax and tag !
Minus 6k trade for my 96...Its in watertown
too....Woman loves the color !......geo
Aug 11, 2002 (6:43 pm)
Have you tried to get a GMS price on an SLS? I had a 2002 SLS as a rental while in Milwaukee last week and absolutely loved it. I'm not sure how the SLS price compares to a base Deville but unless space is an issue, I like the SLS better.
Aug 11, 2002 (9:24 pm)
The woman don't like the bucket seats !
The STS is about 5000 more. Nice car
tho. Its just that first year dep. is
what hurts tho !.........geo
Aug 11, 2002 (9:39 pm)
After many years during which I have owned one of most anything available in the US, I just bought an '02 DTS as the sedan to add to my Jeep, Dodge pickup, and BMW Z3. Why ?
Because I don't need to go 155 MPH on the autobahn, but only about 80-85 or so out here in the open west. Because I want a quiet ride, in a roomy car that can seat 4 real adults, with a sound system that's good enough for my 47 year old ears. Because I want enough handling so that I can avoid the occasional critter on the road - without telegraphing every crack in the pavement. Because I want value for my money. Because I don't need to drive an Benz, Lexus, or BMW to prove that I have it made. Because I don't race from stop light to stop light against Lexus GS430's.
The car magazines that compare the DTS to European sport sedans are comparing apples to oranges. The young obsess with perfection. That's why the "tune" Honda Civics with $20K worth of paint, wheels and turbo's. As I got older, I realized that what I really wanted is a car with an engine that starts, a roomy interior that cools or heats as required, and a sound system that can play the AM talk news station or Vivaldi on a CD. All done without fuss, bother, or the need to read the manual for the thousand function joystick.
I don't use a 4x4 dual wheel 1 ton diesel pickup all chromed out and lowered (!) to get groceries, and I don't need a $80K sport sedan to drive to the office or out to dinner and the symphony.
So, if you are keeping up with the Jones's, drive something else. Maybe Cadillac's marketers are on the right track after all.
Now, would I change anything - sure. Remember thought, I bought it the way it was.
Come on Cadillac - either make the wheels on the DTS symetrical like on the DHS and base, or make a left and a right rotationally specific set.
Give me an engine with low end torque not high end HP. The high perf Northstar in the DTS comes on like a champ at 4500 RPM, but that's too fussy for day to day driving - and mileage suffers too. Either that, or go all the way and spend the bucks for a variable valve timing system.
Finally, fix the control stalks behind the steering wheel - the ones on the Seville are just about right - get that into the DTS.
The rest - leave it alone - you have it right for me.
Aug 12, 2002 (6:52 pm)