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Cadillac DeVille, Sedan
Sep 17, 2000 (3:26 am)
I too have used zymol wax and I like it alot. It is a bit more expensive, but it really gives the car a good shine. The first time I used it, I still had my 89 Olds Toronado which hadn't been waxed in 2 years or more and I did apply to coats of wax and the finish looked 5 years newer. I've used it on my Intrigue as well.
So if the dealer sold mostly base Devilles last year, thats what they are getting this yeay? That makes sense I suspect that is what mine did as the majority of the Devilles I see around here are the base models as a Concours was fairly rare. BTW, I saw a Diamond White STS with a maroon colored interior today. It was the current model, but I don't think it was a 2000 as Cadillac dropped the maroon interior color for this year. That was the first one of the the current model that I had seen in that combo and it looked pretty nice.
Sep 17, 2000 (7:45 am)
Glad your back. Hope you feel better. This place just isn't the same w/o our "insider".
Don't push yourself too hard. It's going to be a long hard flu season and people recovering from pneumonia are especially open to re-infection. Especially car dealers (;
#94 of 2635 follow-up on Cadillac service post
Sep 17, 2000 (5:16 pm)
I do realize that with any brand of luxury vehicle,the service wiil vary from city to city. But, keep in mind that I am referring to not one but two dealerships in a medium to large metropolitan area, which are shamefully inadequate and maddening enough to make this auto enthusiast change car brands!
P.S. I have NO intention of tipping unless I get stellar service first. I will not reward subpar
#95 of 2635 Philly7 - Car Cost
Sep 18, 2000 (6:00 pm)
Even if it turns out the same, you would be better off forgetting about getting some of the Holdback and getting more of the dealer cash.
#96 of 2635 TCCAD1 - Special Order + Dealer Cash
Sep 18, 2000 (6:09 pm)
Why is it so hard to "special order" a Cadillac? My dealers just seem to cry and moan if I want to special order a car, even the less than hot selling Eldorado. Is it allotments? Profits? Paperwork? The insistance to sell what is on the lot? They seem more willing to loose the sale than to special order a car, even a ETC!
Please explain "Dealer Cash". Is this in addition to normal MSRP discounts? Lets say Invoice on a STS was $48k, MSRP was $52k and a normal good deal would be $48,600. If this car had a $5k dealer cash allowance, does that mean we would get it for $5k less? Or does dealer cash mean the dealer can provide a lower cost, better trade and make more profit, if he doesn't negoiate it all away? Please explain. Thanks.
#97 of 2635 Rough Idle Still...
Sep 18, 2000 (7:56 pm)
Can anyone help me with more specifics on the reprogramming of the ecm for the rough idle problem. I am taking my 2000 in tomorrow for a couple of other things. Just spoke to the service department and they (he) wasn't aware of any fix yet. Is there a service bulletin number? Something? Anything?
#98 of 2635 various answers
Sep 18, 2000 (8:55 pm)
Etharmon: That is the oddest combo I have heard of. That could be one of two things. It could be a new 99, but I doubt it. It would have cost the dealer a fortune in floorplan money to keep it around that long. The other could be a custom leahter job. I recently did one for a customer who wanted white leather in a deville. Costs about 3k to have it done, and it looks and feels just like the factory leather. The latter would be my guess.
Philly: Glad to be back and out of my bed. A guy can only watch so much General Hospitol before losing his mind.
Carnought: That is a crying shame that the dealers are that bad. We ran into a problem about 4 years ago with the service manager. Customer comebacks (not fixed right the first time) was at a dealership high. The time it took for a basic repair was too long, and the service writers weren't starting to act like MB employees. We made a major change and are now ranked in the top 5 in the north central zone (about 6 states, roughly 400 dealers) My advice would be to ask to see the owner. Word of caution though, if you go in his office with a big chip on your shoulder, nothing will happen. If you go in with the attitude like you are just trying to help, it will work much better and he is more apt to listen. Telling the dealer you won't buy another vehicle from him because of service or lack thereof won't hurt either.
Artmbgolf: You are 100% correct. Dealer cash goes to the dealer. It is not taxed, unlike customer rebates, because it comes off the price of the car. The dealer is not obligated in anyway to pass this along to you however. I like to use a part of it to lower the cost of a new car and the rest to increase the amount I give you for your vehicle. Edmunds always seems too high on their appraisals! If the car invoices for 48k and there is 5k dealer cash, the car now costs 43k. If there is no trade, I usually give it all to the customer.
Sep 18, 2000 (9:44 pm)
They been showing a new Cadillac commercial for two weeks or three now. They had maybe like 5 or 6 DTSs (maybe more) racing side by side in a desert. All the cars are Neutral Shale. Have anyone seen the neat commercial? It was advertise with Cadillac.com at the conclusion.
#100 of 2635 DTS commercial
Sep 18, 2000 (11:29 pm)
The commercial you are referring to is a contest that Cadillac is sponsoring in a virtual swim meet between 5 legendary Olympic athletes. The meet is being held during the close of the games on 10/1, I believe. You can enter on the Cadillac home page by clicking in the lower right corner. It seems a little silly to me, but then again an Olympian I am not.
Sep 19, 2000 (4:38 am)
The White on red STS was the first time I had seen one of the current model in that combo(it wasn't on a dealer's lot, I just saw it parked at the mall). According to the brochures I have the red(mulberry) was an interior color option on 98s and 99s. I'll agree, it is rare as that was only the second time I have seen a current model Seville with this interior color. The first was about a year ago and it was the red with a black exterior. I have yet to see one with the blue interior as this too was offered in 98 and 99. Most that I see have either neutral shale or pewter and I've seen a few black on black STSs. My guess is that both of the "rare" combo cars that I have seen were special ordered and not from dealer stock.