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Cadillac DeVille, Sedan
Jul 02, 2002 (1:34 pm)
The Demographics have gone down tremendosly since Caddy introduced the new Deville. When I purchased my 2001 Deville, I was told by the dealer, Alco Cadillac, that I was the youngest person to ever purchase a Deville from them (age 19). When I was there recently for service they informed me that 5 other people between the ages of 21-27 have purchased Deville's from them. The bottom line is that Caddy finally made a Deville that is more appealing to the younger driver for many reasons ranging from the preformance to the look.
Jul 02, 2002 (5:53 pm)
Thats pretty cool you were able to buy a new Deville at just 19. I'm 27 and would love a Deville DTS, trouble is the price is just a bit out of my range. Price and the large size is still what is going to keep alot of young drivers away.
#857 of 2635 Mountain Driving
Jul 02, 2002 (11:12 pm)
Will soon be taking a trip from Chicago to Knoxville, TN.
I am torn between driving my 95 Chrysler LHS with 70k miles or my new DTS with 100 miles.
I am a bit concerned about the need to vary the speed on the DTS during the first 500 or so miles, but much more concerned about a possible need to downshift the tranny climbing and descending the mountains.
Do most of you downshift? Anyone experience tranny problems after serious mountain driving?
Thanks for any advice or comments.
Btw, while I love the caddy, the cab-forward design of the chrysler makes it handle and feel like a much smaller car. The caddy wins in most other areas like quietness, comfort, trunk, power, technology, safety.
Glad to hear that the DeVille appeals to a cross section of demographic buyers. I hope this trend doesn't drive up insurance rates for the model
#858 of 2635 $4,000 rebate?
Jul 04, 2002 (3:18 pm)
Hi all, I was on carsdirect.com today and I see that they were selling Devilles at invoice, but now are $4,000 below invoice because of a GM rebate. I'm assuming the $4,000 is in lieu of the 0% financing they just announced.
#859 of 2635 missed opportunity
Jul 05, 2002 (6:55 am)
a local chevy dealer just sold a 2002 base deville
with 10,000 miles for 28,500...that deal sounded good enough to tempt even tight-wad yours truly...jackg
#860 of 2635 One guys bargain is another guys disaster
Jul 05, 2002 (7:14 am)
The above two posts are logically connected. If the purchase price is cheap, the resale is also cheap. Of course, the fact is that whatever the buyer of a new car pays and what the buyer of a used car pays is the market. If cars can only be sold with a hefty rebate, well that says a lot about the car.
The problem for the manufacturer is that he must give up his profit two ways. First the rebate and then the residual if he leases the car. To keep the lease payment competitive, the manufacturer must specify a bloated residual that will bit him when he gets the car back.
What all this says to the buyer is buy cheap or you'll get screwed.
#861 of 2635 perception and reality...
Jul 05, 2002 (8:11 am)
there are many reasons why a manufacturer will discount a product. some manufacturers do not have the deep pockets to offer discounts, even though they may want to. in some cases discounts are offered to drive competitors out of business, in extreme cases. it's important to keep in mind that american manufacturers sell vehicles in numbers that some foreign manufacturers can only dream of and this allows the american companies to offer
discounts and absorb the financial hit. the smaller companies don't have a choice, they could
never cover the loss to the bottom line and stay in business. also, as some other posters' have noted, one man's loss is another's gain...the price on used caddys are great for someone who doesn't mind buying 2nd hand. if someone pays list
or close to it and then tries to turn it in for a newer model a couple years later, that's when it
hurts. customers expect to be able to return the car to the dealer they bought it from and get a decent price toward the purchase of a new car. this applies to all dealers not just caddys..the
dealers are in it, to buy low and sell high, and it doesn't matter if it's their product your driving onto the lot or another make. jackg
#862 of 2635 Let's hope so
Jul 05, 2002 (10:34 am)
With the revamp of it's line. Let's hope Cad can get it's resale value up.
The basic problem with the Lincoln LS is that it's resale value has lagged it's Germand and Japanese competitors.
#863 of 2635 Union contract and rebates
Jul 05, 2002 (6:39 pm)
GM is obligated to pay its assembly line workers 90% of their normal wage if a production line is shut down, under the current contract. Financially, it makes sense for GM to keep the lines open and produce cars, even if big rebates are needed to sell the merchandise. The consumer wins.
#864 of 2635 american might in auto industry
Jul 06, 2002 (8:21 am)
after posting my comments and reading others, i realized that i just touched the tip of the iceberg. if i had to put my finger on the one aspect of car ownership that the americans (and some of the foreign manufacturers too) totally miss the boat on is cust service. i have no idea
how it works in europe or japan, but as we all know the dealerships are independently (sp?) owned and this is the real issue ,i think, most of us have with american cars. i truly believe that the quality of the product is competitive, it's the experience at the dealer that sucks; and it's not all bad, there are reputable dealerships out there. for example, when buying a
luxury marque such as lincoln or caddy or chrysler, a loaner should be included for all service scheduled in advance, this is not asking too much, it should be the rule and it should be done courteiously (sp?). this is something that the manufacturers will have to get involved with, if they are to truly try and run head to head with the mercs,bmws and the like.
as far as value of the product re discounts and resale prices, this is something that to my way of thinking is really dependent on the individual
buyer. now idon't consider myself typical because i am a stock owner when it comes to car
ownership: buy and hold. it's not unusual for me
to hold onto a car for ten years or longer. to me, the fact that a car will notbe worth very much a few years after being purchased new, isn't really important; and to repeat myself, this can work to my advantage when considering a used vehicle: case in point is the 300m. i am amazed at the great prices that you can pick up a second hand 300m with low miles; this is right up my alley. this is something that the individual buyer must assess about their needs before they put their money down. in most cases people lease or buy and get rid of it in a few years and then of course price becomes a major big deal. so i'm not trying to negate the importance of price and discounts, it's very important if you're not going to hold onto it.
one thing that i try and remember when making comparisons to the foreign makers and the big three (well 2 and a half): they are producing product for a country (market) of 240 million
people, from death valley to adak...that's a handful...jack g