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#2570 of 2634 Re: 2001 Cadillac Deville Head Gasket - $10.000.00 [oldfarmer50]
Aug 20, 2011 (8:06 pm)
Oldfarmer, I also thought this was out of hand. But googling around, I found a couple of other people with estimates in that area. I think this would be a new Northstar motor, maybe including heads, from Cadillac, and a Caddy dealer doing the labor.
From what I've read about $3,000 is what the cost of a Timesert 'fix' for the headbolts. I don't think I would put $3,400 into a used motor, buying another potential headgasket problem. Especially if it was a 90's model Caddy. These are $3,000 cars, at the best.
If I was caught up in this, I would try to find someone to do the Timesert fix.
#2571 of 2634 Re: 2001 Cadillac Deville Head Gasket - $10.000.00 [bolivar]
Aug 21, 2011 (5:27 pm)
"...These are $3000 cars at best..."
Edmunds valued the one I looked at as a $2700 car so you are dead on. Seller wanted $1500 so the figures just didn't add up. This was several months ago and the car is still on his lawn. I swear that last time I went by, there was a cardboard sign in the window which said: "FREE"
Such a shame, the car was a beautiful gold color with creame interior. What was GM thinking designing the heads like that?
#2572 of 2634 Re: 2001 Cadillac Deville Head Gasket - $10.000.00 [oldfarmer50]
Aug 21, 2011 (10:55 pm)
I can see a design problem showing up later. About the lowest milage I've read about was in the 40,000 mile range. There probably just wasn't enough testing to bring out the problem when the motor was developed.
But, by 95, 96 models the problem seemed to be very obvious. And this Timesert company had developed the 'kit' to fix the problem, and Cadillac had service documents that specifically called for using the kit for the fix. The kit comes with a template that is bolted to a head with the old bolts. There are holes in the template that are used to overdrill and rethread all the bolt holes. A steel insert which cannot be screwed out, is screwed in, with Locktite. This supposed is a permanent fix. Timesert sells just the inserts if a shop already has the template from a previous job. Standard new headbolts are then used to put the head back on.
Why Caddillac did not produce motors with steel inserts after it became a known problem is the big question.
#2573 of 2634 Re: in dying need of help [bolivar]
Sep 23, 2011 (8:22 am)
I have a 99 Deville I bought cheap at a car auction. It had 2 blown head gaskets which at the dealer would have cost me about $4000 to repair. That is about the cost of a new engine. Bolivar is correct in the major part of that kind of repair is mostly labor. But if the heads are cracked due to excessive heat damage, then you are looking at replacing heads also. My mechanic told me i would be better off finding another engine. He found a wrecked Deville that had been rear ended at the wreck yard. The engine was still in pretty good shape and it cost about $400 and about that much to install in my car. A couple hundred bucks for a new radiator and I had a good running Caddy for less than a thousand.
#2574 of 2634 Continuing Repairs On Our 2005
Sep 25, 2011 (1:42 am)
It's broken both rear window regulators in 3 days. Driver's window was replaced about a year ago.
#2575 of 2634 93 caddy heater problems
Dec 05, 2011 (8:03 pm)
the heater never has worked that great but recently it stop blowing hot air all together i replaced thermostat but still blows nothing but cold air
#2576 of 2634 Re: 93 caddy heater problems [rara4]
by kirstie_h HOST
Dec 06, 2011 (9:47 am)
If the fan is blowing but no heat is coming out, you might try replacing the relay. It's a cheap fix and you can do it yourself - very little to be lost if that isn't the problem, but if it is, it's quick & cheap.
#2577 of 2634 Re: 93 caddy heater problems [kirstie_h]
Dec 07, 2011 (3:22 pm)
which relay is it and where is it located
#2578 of 2634 Re: 93 caddy heater problems [rara4]
by kirstie_h HOST
Dec 08, 2011 (10:24 am)
I don't know - you'd have to look it up in a repair manual. It's also something that should NOT be expensive to have done at a repair shop. That's the first thing they should check.
#2579 of 2634 '01 Cadi DeVille (O2 Sensors etc.)
Jan 01, 2012 (4:47 am)
My '01 Cadi DeVille (base) w/75k miles has several OBD Codes (P0171,P0174,P0741,P0340).
(P0171/P0174)- bank 1 & 2 system too lean; I have taken out the MAF sensor & cleaned it (did not look to be bad since all wires where in tact), next I plan on replacing the O2 sensors. My question regarding this is- how many up/downstream O2 sensors does my '01 DeVille have & where are they located? And is it something I should be able to replace myself?
(P0340)- Cam sensor condition; is replacing the camshaft position sensor something I should be able to do myself? Where is it located?
(P0741)- TCC solenoid failure; same issues/questions?
I am simply looking for some help/good advice. I am not a mechanic, but after the dealer wanted nearly $600 to replace a window regulator & I took a shot it myself; completing the job for $65.90 and 1.5 hours I'm willing to try my hand at anything with this car that doesnt involve taking the engine out. Also, I am replacing my own brake pads & rotors (if needed) since the shop wanted $700 for that job- my question regarding this job is if I only replace the front brake pads, do I still need to bleed the rear brakes as well? Thanks in advance for your assistance & look forward to hearing from you all soon.