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1996 Cadillac Deville transmission by cooldude48818
Aug 15, 2007 (9:35 am)
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I am thinking about getting a 96 Cadillac Deville with 165,000 on it from a friend of mine. He says that the guy he got it from was driving it 3 days ago and all of a sudden it won't shift into 3rd or overdrive gears. Says the tranny fluid looks good but I think it could be the filter. Does anybody else have any suggestions???
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Re: Tips on Buying 99 [joeblack1] by 04cad
Aug 15, 2007 (9:49 am)
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Replying to: joeblack1 (Aug 12, 2007 5:46 pm)

Those were nice cars for their time. I believe they do need premium gas? You could probably get a 2002 or 2003 low mileage for just a little more and I believe they use regular gas. Have you driven a newer Deville? There is a noticeable difference in even the 2005 to the 2007s, and the 2005s drive very nice. Good luck whichever way you go.
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Re: 1996 Cadillac Deville transmission [cooldude48818] by bolivar
Aug 15, 2007 (12:49 pm)
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Replying to: cooldude48818 (Aug 15, 2007 9:35 am)

I doubt it will be something as simple as the filter. I think the filter is actually a cleanable metal screen.
 
It's probably one or both shift solonids inside the tranny. The parts are relatively inexpensive (both should be changed if the repair is made), but the tranny will have to be opened up to get to them.
 
I 'think' the motor does not have to be pulled to get to these. Just opening it up from the bottom, they can be accessed.
 
If it is one of these solonids, it should be setting an error code. This code can be read out and it will point to the solonids. Otherwise, it might be something else.
 
There is a third solonid. Known as 'the $40 part buried $2,000 deep in the tranny'. This one activates the lock-up on the torque converter. A failure on it will set a different error code. The reason it is so expensive - the motor and tranny have to be pulled in order to be able to disassemble the tranny enough to get to this one.
 
Find someone to read the error code, and can tell you what they mean.
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Re: 1996 Cadillac Deville transmission [bolivar] by cooldude48818
Aug 15, 2007 (1:08 pm)
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Replying to: bolivar (Aug 15, 2007 12:49 pm)

If I get a Haynes book, will this tell me how to change thoes solonids? And do you know how much these solonids cost or even what the name of them is? I don't think that I am losing out on this deal. I am trading a 95 Dodge Neon for it with about 166,000mi on it. I just don't want to end up putting lots of money into this car. I have been reading about the Dexcool stuff on this site. Should I change the coolant in this car if I do get it???
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Re: 1996 Cadillac Deville transmission [cooldude48818] by bolivar
Aug 16, 2007 (3:39 am)
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Replying to: cooldude48818 (Aug 15, 2007 1:08 pm)

I've never liked anything but factory service manuals. I would bet a Haynes will say 'Transmission service is beyond the scope of this manual. See an experienced service person for this area.'
 
Look on ebay for a set (2 books) of service manuals. Probably should go for about $50. A new set can be bought at www.helmsinc.com . Factory manuals will cover tranny dis-assembly.
 
P.S. It's a Cadillac. You could spend LOTS of money on it!
 
P.P.S. If you don't know the service history on the car, I would change the coolant. Look at the belts, there is a small one that drives the water pump off the rear of the left cam.
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Re: 1996 Cadillac Deville transmission [bolivar] by cooldude48818
Aug 16, 2007 (7:52 am)
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Replying to: bolivar (Aug 16, 2007 3:39 am)

Well I went and took a look at it yesterday and I didn't like what I seen. I have been working on cars for about 12 years and if I have to take the tranny apart in the engine compartment, I ain't gettin it. Other besides that the car was in great shape and it had 154000mi in it. New water pump and belt. Thanks for the input on this car. I think that I am going to stick with my Neon. Thank you Bolivar.
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96 northstar trans sensors..De-ville by rebeccat
Aug 19, 2007 (2:31 pm)
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the blog I have been reading was written a year ago, but its getting really close to what I am looking for. I wrote down the manuel info and will look in a few. But I need the speed-in-put sensor inside the trans........I'll do both trans sensors. any info on this problem. over 165,000 and really running great other than that.rebeccat
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Re: 96 northstar trans sensors..De-ville [rebeccat] by bolivar
Aug 19, 2007 (4:34 pm)
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Replying to: rebeccat (Aug 19, 2007 2:31 pm)

What?
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re-96 trans by rebeccat
Aug 19, 2007 (5:32 pm)
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I have a 96 deville.One of the sensors inside the trans is messin up... It has been diagnosed as the speed input sensor.I was checking this sight to see if anyone else had sim prob...Some I read was from 2006....sooooooo. I need to replace it. I also know there are 2 diff in trans,, I plan to do both,,, tokeep from haveing to repeat a expensive repair. I hope not to mess with the rest of the trans. Car has over 165,000,,,All else seems to work well...Does anyone have experence with this repair? and have advise..rebeccat
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Re: re-96 trans [rebeccat] by bolivar
Aug 19, 2007 (10:45 pm)
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Replying to: rebeccat (Aug 19, 2007 5:32 pm)

Well, I think this is the dreaded '$40 part buried $2,000 deep in the transmission'. The error code is something like a 720 or 721 or something like this.
 
The transmission (and ususally they pull the motor and tranny together) has to be pulled to get to this solonid. This solonid locks up the torque converter. So, the car usually can be driven, your milage will just suffer because it is not locking the converter up after 45mph or so.
 
The other two solonids, shift solonids, known at the A and B solonids, are easier to get to and do not require the removal of the tranny. And yes, if you do go into the tranny to get the VSS/speed sensor one, you should also replace the A and B shift ones.

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