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#2307 of 2634 Re: Suggestions? No 2002 DHS book -advice on oil ? additive? [ladymylady]
Jun 16, 2007 (7:42 pm)
Also ladymylady go to google.com and type in "cadillac deville owners manual" and the first site that popps up is a site for cadallac deville owners manuals. Suprise suprise. Hehe. But anyway just click it and then click on the year you want and you can download the whole manual to your computer. But I would think that it still uses 10w-30 oil. And as for the fule injector cleaner, you should only add that once in a while to a full tank of gas. I would think that every once and a while would be enough. And never take your Deville to the dealer you bought it from for repairs if you bought it used. They will always try to jip you if the problem is something they should have fixxed. Take it to another dealership who has nothing to gain or lose and just pay to have them look it over and make sure its in tip top shape. I think they would only charge you 70 bucks to do that.
Jun 16, 2007 (9:27 pm)
you're in a slightly different and better position than I'm in, cause if you buy that car with 49,000 miles you're still under warranty...and can buy the extended factory warranty while the guy who traded in my car waited till it was 51,000 miles, 1000 miles out of warranty.
I believe I did look up the guy you are talking about...I got quotes from 6 or 7 of them - and with the exception of "nation" they all were just as expensive (and I worry unreliable) as getting the warranty from the dealer - so I got GMPP warranty for 3 years, 36,000 miles, $200 deductible, for $2505.
that will bring me up to 87,000 miles and I figure after that I can pick up one of these after warranty things ( I keep a car for 8, 10 years or more) --my main concern is all these electronic sensor and module things - and I've been doing a lot of reading...apparently it has not been uncommon to have piston and ring problems, oil leaks, and coolant leaks with these models...so I thought it best to have the factory warrantee... Actually most of the after warrantee people were more expensive than GMPP - almost got suckered into 3 years for $3080 with $100 deductible because they let you pay it off over 18 months(from a company that seems to be connected to an insurance company and administrator that went bankrupt)
-called my own dealer last and found out they give you 12 months, no interest for pay off.....and I guess I'm lucky he's writing it, cause it is off the entire warranty already.
I called the discount caddy dealer in Pennsylvania....awfully nice people...and talked it over with that guy Allan...they give the warranty at discount...found the name here on this forum someplace...and he advised me to take the warrantee from the dealer I bought car from and told me to take the 3 year instead of the 2 year..because I wouldn't be able to get the GMPP Major Guard any other way.
I thought his taking the time to talk to me and advise me when he wasn't going to make a dime out of it was so decent and super nice of him.
#2309 of 2634 "Check Fuel Gauge" came on the 2002 DHS
Jun 16, 2007 (9:35 pm)
Speaking of warranteeing the car:
On my way home from the dealer (bought the warrantee today) using my first tank of gas...with a 1/4 tank left - the strangest thing happened. It got down to a 1/4 tank and the display went off and "Check fuel gauge" came on only. Scared the hell out of me - what happened to the display? Why check fuel gauge when I have 1/4 tank left?
Is that normal?
Anyway, went and filled up half a tank, only then it showed I DID still have the 1/4 left in there.
Sounds like a pressure sensor ????
Anybody have any idea what's going on?
Thanks for any advice.
Jun 16, 2007 (11:07 pm)
- Helms 'publishes' all GM (and other major manufactors) manuals. Service and owner manuals. www.helminc.com will get you there and you can order what you need.
- Or, eBay always (or will within a few days) have an owners or service manual on sale for your car. Check the price for a new one on Helms, then bid approprately on eBay.
- Wild guess would be that a 2002 Cadillac needs 10W-30 oil. But, things change around some. If you are a quart or two low, add 10W-30 until you obtain an owner's manual. It will be ok until your next oil change. I would not use 10W-40 in a Northstar, but the newer ones may now recommend 5W-30 or even 5W-20.
#2311 of 2634 Re: "Check Fuel Gauge" came on the 2002 DHS [ladymylady]
Jun 16, 2007 (11:14 pm)
Are you saying your low fuel message came on, you added something around 10 gallons ('filled up half a tank') and the guage still indicated only 1/4 tank?
If so, sounds like your new car needs a new fuel sender. (And, as I think I've said before, I would replace the fuel pump while they are doing it.) Another $300 + labor coming? Maybe another fuel tank? Going to get to use that new warranty? (You need to check the warranty - some will pay for NOTHING in the first 30 days or so. Keeps people from buying a warranty when something is already busted.)
Ok, one thing. I THINK, by 2002 Cadillac smartened up some and put an access panel in the bottom of the trunk so the top of the fuel tank (and fuel pump/sender) can be accessed thru the trunk without dropping the tank. Labor should be much less than on your older Cadillac.
#2312 of 2634 Low Fuel Message and Radio and Visor
Jun 17, 2007 (1:13 am)
I'm so glad to know that you have a 2002....now I know who to ask 100 questions :0
No. First the low fuel message came on
(which I thought unusual because there was still a 1/4 tank showing)
THEN the screen went dark and it said " CHECK FUEL GAUGE"
When I added what would have been 1/2 tank of gasoline,(about 8 gallons) and looked at the gauge, it showed me that I had 3/4 tank full.
So the gauge is wrong. Anyway, why would "low gas " come on when you still have a 1/4 tank ?
On my 93 it came on when you had two gallons left.
I believe this tank is 18 gallons...so I had to have at least 4 gallons left...no reason for light to come on???
Does your 2002 do that at 1/4 tank ?
BTW, Zim Zam gave me a good clue googling 2002 Cad Owner's Manual - 462 pages - and I've just spent about 3 hours reading it online (:
In adobe so I couldn't print individual pages -
but at least I found out what some of these knobs and buttons are.
Funny, in the 93 I could put the radio on in the back, in the front, or on both front and back. Apparently you can't do that with this new one.
And I agree with others who complained about the visor...very flimsy, positioning strange, and cheap.. should have taken my 93 visor and mirror with me (grinning) !!!!
Thanks again you guys, all advice much appreciated.
#2313 of 2634 Re: Suggestions? No 2002 DHS book -advice on oil ? additive? [ladymylady]
Jun 17, 2007 (4:11 am)
Look on top of the cap where you put the oil in. It should tell you what to use.
I have a 2005 and it uses 5W30. You can call a Cadillac dealer and talk to service manager. Not service writer. He could confirm it for you.
#2314 of 2634 Cadillac Deville info
Jun 17, 2007 (4:41 am)
I have been shopping around for either a 2002 or a 2003 Deville now foor about a month now. And I have narrowed it down to two of them. But I live in Massachusetts and it seems like every one that I look at with about 50,000 miles is from $16000 to $19000. And every one of them that is under 50,000 is over &20,000. When I look down in the Connecticut and New York area they are a good $5,000 cheaper. Is it like that throughout the country? Am I just unlucky where I live to have to pay more for Devilles. And forget about an 2004 with low miles. I would be paying in the upper mid 20's to 30's if I was to get one of them.
#2315 of 2634 Zim -Affordable Caddys
Jun 17, 2007 (8:00 am)
I'm in florida so there are quite a lot of
Cadillacs down here, and I found the ones with low mileage 19000 to 30000 miles were (02,03,04) were about 19 thou to 24 thou - and that was for base devilles, not the DHS (DHS was very hard to find)- but if you have a trade and can bargain it should bring it down - it depends on the dealership -
If you want to take a trip to Florida, I'll tell you where I got mine they have 2002, 2003 and 2004 used and are more reasonable than any others I found - and I had been looking for more than 6 months ...
Also the 2008's are coming out in August (I think it is) so I think they would want to push out their cars in July - it also makes the 02 to 04 a year older. Also ask the dealer how long the car has been on their lot, cause if it's approaching 60 days they turn it over to the wholesaler to get it off their lot - the longer the car has been on their lot, the more anxious they would be to deal-
Since I'm originally from Connecticut, I can tell you there were a lot of Caddys up there closer to Rhode Island cause you are really driving long distances - so you might find a lot of high mileage there - I'd be careful of Caddys driven in New York if commuting to the city -
Also my thought is try that discount Cadillac place in Pennsylvania where they also discount
the warrantee (the one I found on this forum
and I called) www.gmoutlet.com
#2316 of 2634 Re: New used 2002 Deville [zimzam1]
Jun 17, 2007 (10:11 am)
if you can afford it why not?...also watch for a manifold gasket problem that Gm has been having with dexcool coolant, there is a lawsuit you can read about on net...sometimes the coolant rots out gasket...watch coolant level as well and dont go 5 years on same coolant like dexcool claims, just to be safe