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#1491 of 2635 SOME THOUGHTS ON MY 2004 DEVILLE
Aug 01, 2004 (12:59 am)
Traded a 98 De Ville with 39,000 miles for a 2004
De Ville with 15000 miles in July.
Some observations: Car seems to loose a few mph
after cruise is engaged and cruise light comes on. is this common in the current model De Ville? Some of the standard features in the 98 are not in the 2004 model, Examples include: cup holders in center arm rest, electronic trunk lock, and heated front seats.
I was a little surprised that the automated trunk lock was not standard on the 2004 De Ville s. I never used the heated seats on the 98
so haven't missed them on th 04. Never used the
arm rest cup holders in the arm rest of the 98 but was a bit surprised that they were not even in the center arm rest of the 04.
All in all I am satisfied with my purchase, as I was able to get the 04 in the upper $ 20s and the car sold new for 44,650 MSRP (around 41k invoice) less than a year ago.
Have been intrieged by the new Chrysler 300C, I owned a 1997 Chrysler LHS before owning my 98 De Ville.
With 340 Horsepower and 390 ft lb of torque, the Chrysler 300C is quite a value with a price tag of around
$ 40 thousand fully loaded. Still considered my 04 De Ville with 15,000 miles a better overall value for upper $ 20s that I paid.
Are others in this conference familiar with the new Chrysler 300C? What are your thoughts and reactions? Biggest reaaons I bought Cadillac again were, satisfaction with my previous De Ville, price and the fact that the Chrysler 300C is a new and yet untested product in the market.
I would be very interested in hearing the reactions of other Cadillac owners regarding new vs older Cadillacs regarding included options and opinions of the new Chrysler 300C and what impact if any it will have on Cadillac in the future.
Aug 01, 2004 (5:59 am)
I really didn't notice anything different in my 02 or 03 base Devilles compaired to my 96.
The cupholders in the floor/middle of the seat seem much sturdier than the 96 ones mounted in the arm rest. Less spills and wet pant leg !...LOL
The 96 didn't have bun warmers and they sure are NICE in these cold NY winters !
My 96 didn't have the hole in the roof either. I had the hole in my 90 and t-tops in the 2 T/As I had and was sick of getting WET !
Only thru the BOSS nagging did I get the hole in the 02/03s !
Believe ME....Before I signed the papers on them. I sat thru a lot of carwashes AND hose running on the roof !
The 02/03 both had the BOSE......NICE ! compared to the 96 which had the reg. am-fm with the cd changer in the trunk. Sounded crummy !
My 90 had the BOSE cd gold series that POUNDED !
That was the BEST stock car stereo I had ever heard at the time !!!!!!!!!
The Northstar engine in all of them is a PIG compared to the 4.5 in the 90.
That motor was wicked off the line as far as seat of the pants feel ! BURN the rf Michelin tire off from a stop light !
They all would embarass a lesser lexus,bmw,etc. on the street or hiway with plenty of jingle left in your pocket !
As far as the new Mopars..The 300 front end looks like a new RR ! That HEMI sounds like fun too !
But tooo many folks beefing about some things like alignment problems and other issues.
Interesting car tho !
Aug 01, 2004 (1:16 pm)
My 02 or 03 don't have the auto trunk pull down !
My 72 Fleetwood had it !
I got my fingers pinched a few times and I don't miss it ! Plus the valets, bellman, or non Caddy owners BEATING and slamming down the trunk lid !
The auto pull down on my moms 98 is broken from nitwits slamming it. I just re-adjusted the striker and unhooked the power wire.
So now its like a regular trunk lid.............
Mom is ready for a SRX. Had one for 3 days. She is undecided. Dealer offered $5000 for her mint 98 with under 50k miles.
Prob. ask 6k and sell it to somebody .
#1494 of 2635 RESPONSE TO MESSAGE 1493
Aug 01, 2004 (11:52 pm)
Thanks Boomer, that helped to clarify the issue. I liked the motorized trunk lock and rarely had anyone else using my car. Another feature that my 98 had was an auto release for the emergency brake when shifting out of park. The 2004 De Ville doesn't have that either.
Regarding trade in value, I received $ 10M for my 98 with 39,000 miles and also in mint condition. I wanted to keep both cars but my garage is only a standard two car and both Cadillacs would have been to crowded.
Based on my trade value I would suspect you should receive anywhere from $ 8 to 9M for your mothers car with 50,000 miles on it even from a car dealer. Suggest you do a work up value on Edmunds used car value section. I have found it helpful in determining fair trade in values.
Aug 02, 2004 (8:20 am)
Forgot about the e-brake release !
Yea, its a lowball on moms car for sure. But we get the GM employee deal so its expected.
Didn't really crunch numbers. It was a rough estimate. If she really wanted the car I would go at them for "hard" numbers.
I want her to get the Northstar bad boy !
But $55 large !
Bought 3 Caddies from them so they are pretty good with us.
I do know better to ask Terry over at RWTV thread for trade value before hand !
Enjoy your new Caddy !
Aug 02, 2004 (2:12 pm)
An earlier message said that the '04 Deville didn't have cup holders in the center armrest. The front portion of the divider between the seats in my base '03 flips forward and exposes two cup holders. Technically these are not in the armrest but they are fine where they are. The absolute worst cup holders were in the 1992-1999 Buick LeSabres along with the front armrest that constantly broke loose and tilted forward.
Actually every year something standard seems to go. The '02 Deville had the electrochromatic side mirror along with the power seat belt height adjustment. The mirror became an option and the seat belt height adjustment became fixed. The base radio now only has a CD slot, the cassette is gone except for the Bose radio. My '03 has both.
Aug 02, 2004 (2:16 pm)
What armrest problem? Ihave had a 1993 and 1998 LeSabre and had no problem with the cupholders. It was kind of neat that they could collapse and fold inside the armrest so you didn't have the cupholder sticking out.
#1498 of 2635 Re: Cup Holders [dispencer1]
Aug 02, 2004 (3:09 pm)
"Actually every year something standard seems to go. The '02 Deville had the electrochromatic side mirror along with the power seat belt height adjustment. The mirror became an option and the seat belt height adjustment became fixed. The base radio now only has a CD slot, the cassette is gone except for the Bose radio. My '03 has both."
Decontenting is a common thing for Detroit to do as a model ages - it holds the cost down, and if demand for particular feature isn't strong, and they can save $5 by getting rid of it, they do. That's why I like to buy the second year of any new car model. The first year, they have burn in troubles - the second year, they usually have the glitches out, but haven't started stripping the car of the originally designed features yet.
#1499 of 2635 Re: Cup Holders [nvbanker]
Aug 02, 2004 (9:07 pm)
Thanks nvbanker, as I said previous posts in this conference my 2004 deleted cup holders in center armrest, automatic emergency brake release, automatic trunk lock, automatic fuel door release on remote entry, and heated front seats. My previous car was a 98 De Ville. I owned a 1997 Chrysler LHS before that and almost all items were standard except sun/moon roof and console floor shifter. From what I understand Chrysler is sticking to making most options standard in the new 300C.
I enjoyed my 98 Cadillac very much but had the opportunity to update
6 model years and took it. The 2004 is a bit more agile, a bit more quiet on the road and does have some options such as onstar and compass that the 98 did not have.
Aug 03, 2004 (7:18 am)
In model year 2000 Cadillac moved the Deville onto the stiff FWD body platform that the 1995 Aurora/Riviera introduced. This is where the additional quietness and handling come from.