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#1469 of 2480 Re: Looking at buying a 2000 or 2001 need input [watersurgeon #1467] by dispencer1 Jul 02, 2004 (4:02 pm)
Replying to: watersurgeon (Jul 01, 2004 2:55 pm) Try and get one under 4 years old and 50k mileage so you will get a break on an extended warranty. I wouldn't dream of having any car without a 100,000 miles 0 deductible 6 year warranty especially a Cadillac. When the warranty is gone so is the car. The 2001 model had leather standard and the 2002 had the most standard equipment including an electrochromatic (self dimming) outside side mirror and power adjustable seat belts. These were gone by 2003. Each year something standard seems to disappear. Expect great highway mileage (30-31) and terrible city mileage (14-16). This car is a road car. The dreaded torque steering problem with FWD means very little to someone like me who is used to driving FWD cars. I just drive them normally and they seem to drive normally. Perhaps if I drove a Lincoln and then my Cadillac I would know what these people are talking about. Good luck on the Cadillac purchase. These are great cars - ride well and get as good mileage on the road as a Camry (probably better). Plenty of power to keep from constantly downshifting on cruise everytime you go up a hill (like my '98 Silhouette). I have a base model 2003 Deville (ex-Alamo rental car) and like it very much. I'd get the extended warranty though. I made sure mine was 'certified" with the protection plan for 100k miles.
#1470 of 2480 Re: Looking at buying a 2000 or 2001 need input [watersurgeon #1467] by dispencer1 Jul 10, 2004 (5:26 am)
Replying to: watersurgeon (Jul 01, 2004 2:55 pm) What did you finally buy?
#1471 of 2480 by sls002 Jul 10, 2004 (7:32 am)
I have not found that GM's full size FWD cars have much torque steer. My 83 Buick Skyhawk did have a lot of torque steer.   As far as fuel consumpution goes, I get over 20 MPG in local driving (around 25 actually), but most of my driving is part highway. How bad your gas mileage gets will depend on how short your local trips are with a cold start up. Even in winter (temperature around 15 F), when I still lived in town, I got 18 MPG.   The big thing to watch for is coolant leaks. A leak in the wrong place will cause corrosion which may require an engine replacement if it goes on too long.
#1472 of 2480 Oh, well.... by nvbanker Jul 10, 2004 (4:32 pm)
THAT's encouraging! I don't want to have to worry about that all the time.   I guess torque steer is what you're used to. My Infiniti doesn't have severe torque steer, but you can sure tell it's FWD just with the differences in road surfaces as you accelerate, which is what I'm objecting to, given the choice. The DeVilles/Sevilles I've driven in recent years are smooth enough, but when you goose it, particularly making a turn in an intersection, you sure feel it.
#1473 of 2480 nvbanker by sls002 Jul 11, 2004 (7:02 am)
Well, one does get some indication that the power is moving through the wheels that also steer. But my Skyhawk (4 cylinders) would spin the steering wheel if you did not grip it hard, when on wheel was on slippery surface and the other had plenty of traction. I have never noticed any tendency like this with the full size FWD's.   The new STS with RWD should be a much more satisfactory car for handling.
#1474 of 2480 1990 lock issues by frmo Jul 15, 2004 (6:26 am)
We have a 1990 DeVille. We are experiencing problems with the door locks and recently have had trouble turning the car off. Doors - key fits but is extremely difficult to turn. We have tried to replace the cylinders and locks - no luck. This happens in both doors. Ignition - Intermittantly, you have to jiggle, push, pull, stand on, wait 20 minutes and try again - response varies before you can turn the key to turn the ignition off. Have never had trouble turning it on. Can these problems be related? The car was given to us by my in-laws. One person owner. He had problems with the locks and no one was able to find the solution for him either. My son will start driving this soon and I want him to be able to lock the car - or I fear it will be stolen. Any suggestions are appreciated.
#1475 of 2480 That's easy...... by nvbanker Jul 15, 2004 (8:56 am)
Your key is worn down. Hopefully you have another less worn key around that you can use and copy. If not, perhaps an old, experienced, and skilled locksmith can fashion one for you. That's all it is, and it's pretty common with GM keys. Don't know why. My niece has an 01 Saturn that this has happened to already! Fortunately, she had an unused key put away. Solved all the problems.
#1476 of 2480 Thanks by frmo Jul 16, 2004 (4:13 am)
Hadn't though of that. We will check this out. We do have several sets but they may have all been made from the same worn out key. Why would it be easy to start the car but hard to turn it off? Also, you have to hand unlock each door, power system doesn't work and replacing parts has not changed that. I was fearing electrical, but will explore the key fit first.
#1477 of 2480 by nvbanker Jul 16, 2004 (3:36 pm)
Your door locks problem is electrical, and unrelated to the ignition problem. I doubt the new key will fix the door lock problem at all, but it should give you a smooth ignition switch. Replies to this message: boomer1b (Jul 16, 2004 6:08 pm)
#1478 of 2480 FRMO by boomer1b Jul 16, 2004 (6:08 pm)
Replying to: nvbanker (Jul 16, 2004 3:36 pm) I had a 90 Deville from new........The locks were always hard to turn! Much easier to use the push button panel on the outside of door to unlock. Must of been the plunger mechanism for the power locks that made it hard to turn key. Quite a pain ! Sure glad my 96 and later Caddies had the remote!   I would say your ignition key and/or switch in the column is getting worn out. Too bad you didn't have the key code. A locksmith could make ya a new key for it. That would be your best way out. Can you track the car back to the selling dealer? I have had a few ignition switches stop working altogether (unable to turn) in some of my GM winter rats.   Problem is a 90 Cad has the "pellet" in the key. Pretty $pendy nowadays to have remade. I can just imagine how much it would cost to replace ign. switch and key.

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