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Purchasing a used X or S type, 6cyl by penny1962
Jul 24, 2009 (7:03 pm)
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I'm looking at used 2000-2005 used jags, but would like advice from owners. What bothers me is most of these cars have no service book and I think that's very important to know if routine maintenance was kept up.
 
I won't be in a position to purchase until about a year from now and have plenty of time to do research. I've read a few pages here and keep coming across vibration concerns and cost of a specific motor oil that is expensive. Seems there are owners who love the cars and have had little to no issues, then others that swear the cars are a nightmare to maintain.
 
Before buying *any* used car I always have it inspected, and the cars I have found are supposedly "certified", but again...few to no maintenance books.
 
Can a Ford dealer do an inspection or would I need to take it to a Jaguar dealer/mechanic..?
 
I have lots of questiond but will start with this for now.
 
Thanks in advance,
Penny
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Re: Purchasing a used X or S type, 6cyl [penny1962] by ron6962
Jul 25, 2009 (5:36 am)
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Replying to: penny1962 (Jul 24, 2009 7:03 pm)

Penny, I have a 2002 S-Type, 8 cylinder. I bought it new and during the 4 "free" maintenence years, I had it in the shop about 6 times, 4 for the same problem...a leaky rear-end. They finally replaced the entire rear-end unit, and I have not had further problems. Immediately after expiration of the 4 year warranty, I had to have a window motor replaced ($400) , and then about a year later, had to have all 8 ignition coils replaced ($1200), although only one was failing. Then about 6 months later, the transmission went out and had to be replaced at a cost of $5000. I've not had any further serious problems (knock on wood) for the past couple of years. It now has 106,000 miles on it, and rides/drives just like it did when it was new. I think the quality of the drive train should have been better with a $50,000 price tag, but overall, it is the nicest car I have owned. Am I going to buy another one? Probably not. I'm not comfortable with the future of Jaguar since Ford sold out it to Tata.
 
My advice on shopping for a used one.....search for one with low mileage. They are around, because many of the owners trade or lease every couple of years. I would definitely have it checked out by a trusted mechanic. If you don't have one, then I would take it to a Jaguar dealer, not Ford. The mechanics at a Jaguar dealer are much more likely to be trained for them properly.
 
On the oil question....during the first 4 years, they used synthetic oil and changed it every 12 months or 10,000 miles. Then I was told synthetic oil is of no advantage except in very high performance engines....Ferrari, etc.. So for the past 3-4 years I have used regular oil and change it every 3 months or 3000 miles. (About $80 at a Jaguar dealer, and about $30 anyplace else.)
 
In my opinion, there are two things needed to make a "good" car last longest....keep it clean and waxed, and keep the oil changed regularly.
 
Hope this helps. Ron
 
P.S.....if you want a good deal on a 2002 S-Type 4.0 with a new transmission and 106,000 miles, I have one!! (-:
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2003 S-Type R Headlights by gr8cat
Jul 25, 2009 (10:48 am)
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We really need help - our cat has only one eye - the Bi Xenon Headlights have winked out on the passenger side. Out, then on then out for good. The Jag dealer assessed the lights, sold us the wrong bulb and our mechanic sent us back to the dealer again who now says that we have to pay about $400. for that bulb plus labour at about $l20.00 per hour in order to get that light working. I don't think brain surgeons make that kind of money or even pay that kind of money for their operating room lights. Someone says that BMW's are even more. Somethings wrong with this picture so we're really hoping that someone out there can help us with some correct information as to how to approach this problem and get our cat seeing straight again. Thanks.
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Re: Purchasing a used X or S type, 6cyl [penny1962] by oldcem
Jul 25, 2009 (7:23 pm)
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Replying to: penny1962 (Jul 24, 2009 7:03 pm)

I'm on my third Jaguar. Previously owned an 03 X-Type and an 06 X-Type. The first of the year I traded my 06 X for a certified 06 S-Type VDP that my local Jag dealer acquired. First of all - Jag's certified cars give you a 6 year - 100K warranty from original in-service date, and, offers excellent protection. The X-Types are all-wheel -drive, and, the drivetrain can be annoying noisy, and, some have had vibration issues - requiring propshaft replacements, etc. to cure the problem. The S-Types are much quieter, and, more luxurious than the X, but, you give up the excellent foul weather capabilities that the all-wheel- drive gives you. However, the S-Type, with its 6 speed automatic, gets better fuel economy than the X does. On the question of motor oil - there is no special motor oil required - both models use regular 5W-30 oil. You can use synthetic if you want, but its more expensive. My advice to you: Decide which model Jag you want. Get the latest model with the lowest mileage you can afford, and, get a Certified one from a Jag dealer. This means they've inspected the car, corrected any deficiencies, and warrant the vehicle as noted above. Before I bought my CPO S-Type, I was allowed an overnight test drive, and, I did my own inspection as well. I found a couple of problems that they missed, and, made them correct them before I purchased the car. In addition, Jag will only certify cars that have had all the required maintenance done, have a clean carfax, and, have some of the original factory warranty still in effect (Must have under 50K miles). The dealer is required to give you a copy of the Carfax report on the vehicle before purchase as well. Buying a certified one from a non-Jag dealer is a crap-shoot - a lot of these non-factory backed certification programs are a joke. In addition, at the time I bought mine, Jaguar was offering very attractive finance rates on the CPO cars as well. I believe they're still available.
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Re: 2003 S-Type R Headlights [gr8cat] by oldcem
Jul 25, 2009 (7:31 pm)
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Replying to: gr8cat (Jul 25, 2009 10:48 am)

I suggest you research your problem on a couple of the regular Jaguar forums. Usually the folks that post on these can offer excellent guidance on how to deal with a problem such as yours.
 
Regards:
OldCEM
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thanks by kenberg
Aug 04, 2009 (2:36 pm)
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Thanks for tips. Like most, I see the S type as exactly what I've always wanted since first driving the old 3.8s. Problem is, the costly parts under the paint are not something I want to have to worry about. As a parking lot fender smasher in the 1950s I often took customer cars to the Jag shop for them. They loved their cars but were vexed by constant need for attention. Seems that not much has changed.
Ken
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Need Help by travemed
Aug 15, 2009 (12:17 pm)
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I got 2000 S type V6 29.5 K miles, very low, I have warning light " Left tail lamp out"
I check Fuses in fron and back and nothing.
Any clue??
Thanks
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Re: Need Help [travemed] by ron6962
Aug 15, 2009 (12:26 pm)
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Replying to: travemed (Aug 15, 2009 12:17 pm)

This usually means you have a bulb that is burned out....not a fuse. Check the bulbs in the left rear light enclosure. It is easy to do yourself. I have replaced two (left and right) in my 2002 S-Type.
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Re: Need Help [ron6962] by travemed
Aug 15, 2009 (12:56 pm)
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Replying to: ron6962 (Aug 15, 2009 12:26 pm)

Thanks:
I replaced all the bulbs and nothing that why I check the fuses.
RK
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Re: 2003 S-Type R Headlights [oldcem] by gr8cat
Aug 16, 2009 (12:35 pm)
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Replying to: oldcem (Jul 25, 2009 7:31 pm)

OldCEM: Regular Jaguar forums? Aaaaah, if only I knew how to find them. I'm so new to all this stuff - I have a passionate hate for computers because they never seem to give up the information I need when I need it, probably because I don't ask the questions properly or some other lame reason.
  Whatever, we don't get along, never did, but I refuse to give up and so now I have to try to find those Regular Jaguar Forums you so kindly mentioned. Can you please point me to them so I can search out the information I need.
Apparently the initial problem with the lights was a ballast and the replacement (wow expensive) failed within two days so we really have to search out this problem. Jaguar Doctor is too busy dismantling the front end to get at headlights again to research so I have to struggle with the computer. I think I have the best job though, frustrating though it may be, at least my office is air-conditioned.
Point me to the other forums, please and I'll stop bothering you guys. Thanks muchly.

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