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Jaguar S type by kenberg
Jul 11, 2009 (10:21 am)
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Hi: I'm considering first Jaguar purchase ... thinking S type. Have seen comments and wonder where in the series the new 'norwegian' transmission came in. Is there a code on the cars to show which trans they have?
 
What other things, aside from long, strong warranty should I look for?
 
Ken
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Re: Jaguar S type [kenberg] by alorasdad
Jul 11, 2009 (11:20 am)
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Replying to: kenberg (Jul 11, 2009 10:21 am)

Ken, I purchased a used 2001 in 2005 with 49k miles. Still have it, tranny going out, with close to 110k. The Ford tranny, which mine has, goes about 100, based on what the dealers said. Other than the hvac going out, which I now question, based on the mechanic involved, no real maintenance issues. The car is great to drive and good for the ego, if you like comments about your car :>. Good shopping to you.
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Re: Jaguar S type [kenberg] by oldcem
Jul 11, 2009 (8:12 pm)
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Replying to: kenberg (Jul 11, 2009 10:21 am)

Ken:
 
Easy way to tell what trannys in the car - the ZF is a 6 speed, the Ford box is 5. I picked up a CPO 2006 S-Type VDP model earlier this year from the local Jag Dealer. I suggest you look for a CPO car with the 300 HP 4.2 V8 in it. Fuel economy is virtually the same as the 3.0. This S-Type is my third Jag, I owned 2 X Types before it.
 
Happy Shopping
OldCEM
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Re: Jaguar S type [kenberg] by rmbaker47
Jul 12, 2009 (3:45 pm)
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Replying to: kenberg (Jul 11, 2009 10:21 am)

I made the very unfortunate choice to purchase 2 Jaguars in a row for my wife who drives about 6,500 miles per year - so very light duty. Both Jaguars, first a Soverign and the 2nd a S-Type were the worst cars I have ever owned mechanically and cost of ownership wise!!! I restore GM 60's clasic muscle cars for a hobby and service all my vehicles very, very well. Both motors failed due to cooling problems (1st faulty head gasket in the inline 6 and complete motor meltdown in the S when the plastic - milk carton like burp tank sprung a leak and overheated the aluminum block = quoted $18,000 to repair by Jaguar) both at less than 50,000 miles and Jaguar would only refer me to their local dealers who have the highest repair rates I have ever been subjeted to = $80/gal of replacement antifreeze!! Do not buy any of this Jag crap unless you love to throw your money away. Do not count on any Jag warrenty saving you, they have more ways of weasiling out of what should be normal warenty responsibility than any auto manufacturer I have been a customer of having owned over 100 GM, Ford, Chrysler, Mercedies autos during my driving life.
 
I strongly recommend you look to BMW, Mercedies, Porche, Lexus, etc. before ever wasting your money and your customer patience on Jag junk!!!! Proceed with Jaguar at your own risk - you have been fairly informed.
 
Some numbers, Jag/Ford sold 80K S-Types with the Linclon 4.0 V8 motor in the early 2000s at an average price of $60,000. The motors all melted down due to the worst cooling system design I have ever seen in any auto, let alone a "luxury" car!! 80,000 x $60,000 is a very big number and an unconscionable fraud of US consumers! I read story after story of people who paid $60,000 new or $40/30,000 used and by 50K or 60K miles their Jag was only worth scrap. I sold ours at an wrecked car insurance auction for $6,500 and was tickled pink to get any money back at all.
 
Good luck?
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Rossco2 by rossco2
Jul 21, 2009 (10:40 am)
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I have 2006 Jaguar S type that has a "PARKING BRAKE FAULT" light on the console. Anyway for some reason I can get the the parking brake off and the car will not move. I tried to release it manually but that was unsuccessful. Can someone out there please give me a suggestion on what to do. I was thinking about disconnecting the battery then re-connecting it to see if that might re-set something.
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8 cylinder Jaguar engine problems by aidemoi
Jul 21, 2009 (11:45 am)
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I just want to put the word out to people that have an 8 cylinder Jaguar motor. The motor was designed with plastic secondary tensioners. Prevent huge engine repair costs by having these replaced with the new metal tensioners. My secondary tensioner recently exploded causing my timing chain to snap. If I would have known sooner I could of had them replaced at a fraction of the cost. I love my Jaguar and preventative maintence is so important!
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Purchasing a used X or S type, 6cyl by penny1962
Jul 24, 2009 (7:03 pm)
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I'm looking at used 2000-2005 used jags, but would like advice from owners. What bothers me is most of these cars have no service book and I think that's very important to know if routine maintenance was kept up.
 
I won't be in a position to purchase until about a year from now and have plenty of time to do research. I've read a few pages here and keep coming across vibration concerns and cost of a specific motor oil that is expensive. Seems there are owners who love the cars and have had little to no issues, then others that swear the cars are a nightmare to maintain.
 
Before buying *any* used car I always have it inspected, and the cars I have found are supposedly "certified", but again...few to no maintenance books.
 
Can a Ford dealer do an inspection or would I need to take it to a Jaguar dealer/mechanic..?
 
I have lots of questiond but will start with this for now.
 
Thanks in advance,
Penny
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Re: Purchasing a used X or S type, 6cyl [penny1962] by ron6962
Jul 25, 2009 (5:36 am)
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Replying to: penny1962 (Jul 24, 2009 7:03 pm)

Penny, I have a 2002 S-Type, 8 cylinder. I bought it new and during the 4 "free" maintenence years, I had it in the shop about 6 times, 4 for the same problem...a leaky rear-end. They finally replaced the entire rear-end unit, and I have not had further problems. Immediately after expiration of the 4 year warranty, I had to have a window motor replaced ($400) , and then about a year later, had to have all 8 ignition coils replaced ($1200), although only one was failing. Then about 6 months later, the transmission went out and had to be replaced at a cost of $5000. I've not had any further serious problems (knock on wood) for the past couple of years. It now has 106,000 miles on it, and rides/drives just like it did when it was new. I think the quality of the drive train should have been better with a $50,000 price tag, but overall, it is the nicest car I have owned. Am I going to buy another one? Probably not. I'm not comfortable with the future of Jaguar since Ford sold out it to Tata.
 
My advice on shopping for a used one.....search for one with low mileage. They are around, because many of the owners trade or lease every couple of years. I would definitely have it checked out by a trusted mechanic. If you don't have one, then I would take it to a Jaguar dealer, not Ford. The mechanics at a Jaguar dealer are much more likely to be trained for them properly.
 
On the oil question....during the first 4 years, they used synthetic oil and changed it every 12 months or 10,000 miles. Then I was told synthetic oil is of no advantage except in very high performance engines....Ferrari, etc.. So for the past 3-4 years I have used regular oil and change it every 3 months or 3000 miles. (About $80 at a Jaguar dealer, and about $30 anyplace else.)
 
In my opinion, there are two things needed to make a "good" car last longest....keep it clean and waxed, and keep the oil changed regularly.
 
Hope this helps. Ron
 
P.S.....if you want a good deal on a 2002 S-Type 4.0 with a new transmission and 106,000 miles, I have one!! (-:
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2003 S-Type R Headlights by gr8cat
Jul 25, 2009 (10:48 am)
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We really need help - our cat has only one eye - the Bi Xenon Headlights have winked out on the passenger side. Out, then on then out for good. The Jag dealer assessed the lights, sold us the wrong bulb and our mechanic sent us back to the dealer again who now says that we have to pay about $400. for that bulb plus labour at about $l20.00 per hour in order to get that light working. I don't think brain surgeons make that kind of money or even pay that kind of money for their operating room lights. Someone says that BMW's are even more. Somethings wrong with this picture so we're really hoping that someone out there can help us with some correct information as to how to approach this problem and get our cat seeing straight again. Thanks.

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