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Pontiac Bonneville, Sedan
Feb 20, 2001 (10:18 am)
As a new 2001 LeSabre Limited owner, I poke around the other G-body forums from time to time. I was considering the Aurora V8, but at the time, I couldn't get a price I liked. The Aurora is also a little limited in trunk space, compared to the Bonneville and LeSabre anyway.
Other than that, the Aurora is a great car and I would hate to see it disappear from the GM lineup completely. Hard to say where it would fit in, though. I don't see Chevy getting it; the Aurora is a little too upscale for that division. Pontiac might land it, but I don't see Pontiac carrying both the Bonneville and Aurora in their product lines.
Buick might find a home for the Aurora, but the styling would have to change a little. Then again, would they have the LeSabre and Aurora in their product line??? Who knows. Personally, I don't know why they continue to carry the LeSabre and Park Avenue at the same time. The LeSabre Limited, fully optioned, has virtually every option the Park Avenue Ultra has, sans the good old Eaton M90, for about $10,000 cheaper
Initially, I think most Olds buyers will start heading for Buick. In light of that, if GM keeps the Aurora, it would probably wander over in that direction. If Buick were smart, they would dump the Rendezvous, and pick up the Olds Bravada. Nice truck.
Enjoy your Bonnevilles, everyone.
#698 of 4400 Buick aurora
Feb 20, 2001 (10:51 am)
Again, if Buick could not keep the "legendary" Riviera afloat, they don't stand a chance with the un-buick like aurora. I think we can safely right off the entire Olds line, however, why not keep the powertrain set ups? The 2 little Northstar drivetrain systems could be the replacement for the sturdy but outdated 3.8 across the entire GM line especially the Park, Lesabre, and Bonneville. I keep looking for a decent deal on a Ultra to replace my SSEi... the rattles have gotten the best of me. Too bad someone doesn't hit a deer and need a good Bonnie.
#699 of 4400 RE: Buick aurora
Feb 20, 2001 (11:17 am)
If Buick built a LeSabre outfitted with the Aurora goodies (NorthStar V8, 4T80E, 17-inch wheels/tires, REAL buckets with a floor shifter), I'd buy one tomorrow.
I think the Riveria fell victim to a lack of interest in big 2-door cars. Buick should have turned the Riveria into a rag-top; that probably would have kept it alive.
Who knows what GM will do. They still think that Camaro/Firebird owners are going to start buying souped up Chevy trucks. As a former Trans Am and Corvette owner, I can tell you right now that strategy won't fly.
#700 of 4400 vtech83
Feb 20, 2001 (12:11 pm)
Don't forget the name for that kick a Buick - it's got to be a screaming WILDCAT!! Ken
Feb 20, 2001 (12:53 pm)
I want to thank everyone for their imput, as I was deciding between a used SSEi and a dealer demo. You will be happy to know the used SSEi won, and I am thrilled with the car. It is a blast to drive and I got a good deal. Now that I have this black beauty, I want to keep the paint in pristine condition. Should I avoid the automatic, brushless carwashes, and go for the hand washes, when it is too cold in NY do to it myself? What is a good wax, to maintain the glossy showroom look? Thanks for your help.
#702 of 4400 djohn - CONGRATULATIONS
Feb 20, 2001 (1:14 pm)
Best wishes for a long and enjoyable ownership experience with your new 'Black Beauty'. There's nothing like sliding into the (leather) seat of your new ride. Please keep us posted on your experiences. Ken
#703 of 4400 djohn - paint protection
Feb 20, 2001 (2:06 pm)
Congrats on the SSEi.
As far as washing your car, I would opt for the self-service type of wash, the places where you spray on the soap and rinse it off yourself. I've been told that even brushless car washes use harsh detergents and chemicals that can damage your paint.
I've been using the Meguiars Mirrow Glaze line of products for years and have been very happy with the results. Use the #7 Show Car Glaze to bring out the shine and then a couple coats of #26 Hi-Tech Yellow Wax to protect the finish. They also make a product called #34 Final Inspection you can use for shining your car quickly after a rainstorm or after washing. Only works if you have a good coat of wax on the car in the first place. Get yourself a load of good quality terry cloth towels for polishing and waxing the black beauty.
Zaino polishes also come highly recommended, but you have to order their stuff, it's not sold at any auto parts store. Also, Zaino doesn't have any kind of wax product, so I would be a little concerned about paint protection.
#704 of 4400 Lake Orion (AKA Woebegone)
Feb 20, 2001 (4:47 pm)
Just saw the news that GM plans to cut production at Lake Orion (LeSabre, Park Avenue, Bonneville, and Aurora) by 25% by spring. Since the Aurora is currently less than 10% of production at the plant, even stopping production on it means a big cut for Buick and Pontiac. IMHO, the G-body is the best GM sedan, and a damn good car period. I hate when people screw up a sure thing because they don't know what they have, or how to let people that it exists.
Feb 20, 2001 (6:01 pm)
The reason Buick offers both the LeSabre and the Park Avenue is obvious. The LeSabre is smaller, has less luxury options, and costs less. It clearly is in a different class and price range.
However, I do agree with you that Buick should dump the Rondevous. A vehicle of this type does not fit in to the Buick lineup. But, I also don't think an SUV like the Bravada fits in either. I also don't think it fit in with Oldsmobile and that may be the reason it didn't sell that well.
I'd like to see a larger, sportier "Bravada" as a Pontiac. Something less in size and cost than a Danali/Escalade.
#706 of 4400 A Name From The Past
Feb 20, 2001 (6:07 pm)
Ken - Thanks for reminding me about the Wildcat; basically a two door sportier Lesabre. That was quite a car!
Also, what else can you tell me about the Buick LaCrosse and where can I see the pictures you talk about?