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Bonne dead . . Re: GXP vs Lucerne [mlm4] by rayainsw
Nov 01, 2005 (7:23 am)
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Replying to: mlm4 (Nov 01, 2005 6:09 am)

“And maybe -- perhaps -- in 20 years someone will cruise Woodward Avenue in a 2005 GXP and it will kindle fonder memories of the Bonneville's legacy.”
 
I think that part of the reason the Bonne died was because of the failure of the GXP version. I looked at the Bonne GXP when it first arrived at a local dealer. I liked most everything about it, except:
1) It was not (and did not feel) ‘quick’.
2) The EPA mileage ratings (largely due to the 3.7:1 final drive.
 
So – I waited – and recently bought a Grand Prix GXP.
 
If the Bonne have been & felt as quick as my GP GXP, and posted (even close to) similar EPA mileage ratings, then I’d likely have purchased one . . . 17 / 24 with acceleration numbers like 0-60 in 6.9 and the Quarter in 15.4 at 91 (C+D) just did not impress me.
 
[ For comparison: The C+D numbers for the Grand Prix GXP are 5.7 and 14.3 at 98. That is a sufficient difference that is obvious to those attuned . . ]
 
I really like Torque. Great, steaming piles of low speed Torque. And low RPM at cruise.
 
And I am still curious, now that the Bonne is out of production, if Pontiac will explore an ‘upmarket’ interior for the GP. I’d have seriously considered options like a power tilt & telescope steering wheel, cooled as well as heated front seats, a rear seat center armrest, etc.
 
Or perhaps Pontiac will be the next GM Division that is ‘sacrificed’. . .
 
[Swing and a miss – strike 3 for the Bonne . . ]
 
Not that 1 sale would ever revive or kill a Model, but it does help.
- Ray
Happy GM customer – at least for now . .
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Re: Bonne dead . . Re: GXP vs Lucerne [rayainsw] by hammen2
Nov 01, 2005 (9:38 am)
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Replying to: rayainsw (Nov 01, 2005 7:23 am)

I, too, looked at a GXP back in May of 2004 when, combining incentives, GM Card earnings and bonuses, and GM Employee pricing (mother-in-law is a retiree), I could have purchased a fairly-loaded Bonnie GXP for around $26k + TTL. I had the same impression as Ray - the car did not feel quick (my '98 Aurora felt faster), and the interior left something to be desired.
 
The Zeta-based RWD G8 was supposed to take the place of the Bonnie and uplevel Grand Prix models (the G6 was to handle the lower Grand Prix models), but, as we all know, it got canceled. Too bad, it would have been a great car. Picture this with the twin Pontiac kidney grilles, and there's your G8:
 
Current Aussie Wheels Magazine cover
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Heated Seats Not Working by evandro
Nov 22, 2005 (8:56 am)
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So came winter and the driver's heated seat doesn't work. When I flip the switch to turn it on, the light comes on and then goes out in a couple of seconds.
 
I was going to check my Intrigue's service manual to troubleshoot it, but I was wondering if anyone's had the same issue.
 
TIA
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Re: Heated Seats Not Working [evandro] by jh777
Nov 27, 2005 (2:52 pm)
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Replying to: evandro (Nov 22, 2005 8:56 am)

I just started having the exact same problem with the driver's side of my 2001 SSEi. I checked the fuse found under the rear seat, but it was good. When I press the button I can hear a relay under the driver's seat. It's probably a temperature safety switch that isn't working, but I don't have a service manual that might confirm that. If I figure something out, I'll post it. If anyone else has an answer, please post it.
Jeff
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Re: Heated Seats Not Working [jh777] by mlm4
Dec 08, 2005 (7:51 am)
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Replying to: jh777 (Nov 27, 2005 2:52 pm)

Not a fuse, not a switch. The heating element in the seat cushion is bad. Common problem apparently. Sitting on it causes it to flex and break. It used to be that the entire seat had to be replaced! Now GM has a bulletin on this. I think it involves installing a new element over the old one.
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Re: Heated Seats Not Working [mlm4] by kidsdad1
Jan 09, 2006 (9:00 am)
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Replying to: mlm4 (Dec 08, 2005 7:51 am)

We are also having the exact same problem with our drivers side heated seat on our 2001 Bonneville SSEi. Do you have any more info. on that GM Bulletin or a part #. I would like to fix this if I can get some more info.
 
Thanks!
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Re: Heated Seats Not Working [kidsdad1] by mlm4
Jan 09, 2006 (12:39 pm)
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Replying to: kidsdad1 (Jan 09, 2006 9:00 am)

Service Bulletin for 2001 Bonneville was 01-08-50-012B MAR 05 Interior - Front Heated Seat Inoperative/Cold.
 
Part number for the repair kit is 25730797. List price is $105.26 but can be had for much less from an internet parts supplier. According to the bulletin the labor is about 1.3 hours per seat and this doesn't look like a do-it-yourself job either so the repair will be expensive. Good luck.
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Re: Rusty Rotors [ravenfive] by mcroker
Jan 16, 2006 (7:17 am)
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Replying to: ravenfive (Feb 28, 2005 8:05 am)

Hey Joe, question - I was reading about you painting the rotors, how is it holding up?
 
Thaks
Mike
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Re: Bunky [ezrapon] by mcroker
Jan 20, 2006 (9:02 am)
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Replying to: ezrapon (Apr 08, 2004 1:27 pm)

Hey Guys, I just recently purchased a beautiful 04 Red GXP.. 19K mi Loaded - What a nice ride, my wife and I have wanted a Bonneville for years now and finally! Love it, I really enjoy the posts, tips, suggestions and expierences -I am very intersted in any solution to front brake dust - war on front brake dust! I do want to get the Northstar badge for the rear end, that really looks nice and compliments.. a little pi$^%^% now, we got rear ended last weekend.. sick.. but not much damage. Will need a new lense and new bumper..hopefully paint will match and be close..
 
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Re: Curious: Your '04 miles and any problems? [bunky36] by mcroker
Jan 20, 2006 (9:16 am)
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Replying to: bunky36 (Sep 21, 2004 5:05 pm)

What type of Zaino do you use for the brake dust issue?
 
Thanks
Mike

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