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#4153 of 4400 Saw an '04 GXP this weekend
Oct 25, 2004 (6:48 am)
I finally sat inside and thoroughly checked out an '04 GXP (at the long island auto show) and here are my thoughts:
-I loved the interior. My father owned a 2000 SSEi, essentially the same car (chassis, interior, shape, etc.) and Pontiac did a very nice job dressing up the inteiror (with the suede leather, carbon fiber-like trim, etc.) with the GXP. I was VERY impressed with the quality and feel of the interior over the 2000 SSEI's.
-The color I saw was like a dark crimson red, and I didn't care for it - a color I think that is probably marketed to the 'senior' crowd. I'd like the car in a black or silver.
-Sticker price (at $37+K) is still too high. I realize that there is a healthy incentive from Pontiac, but given the car's (and most american makes, for that matter) depreciation, I would definitely wait for a 2005 slightly pre-owned GXP if I was in the market to buy the car. Sit in a '04 or '05 Acura TL, you'd be won over at $32K.
(I'm still biased towards the Bonneville and would take it over the Acura TL if I had my pick).
Oct 27, 2004 (9:36 am)
According to GM, the GXP accounts for 30% of Bonneville sales. A third of sales being the highest trim level is pretty good.
#4156 of 4400 Re: Curious: Your '04 miles and any problems? [chaps]
Oct 29, 2004 (10:06 am)
I have a black '04 GXP and have no paint problems. I had an '03 SSEI previously, also black, and it had the same problem you describe, primarily on the hood and around the edges of other areas. The dealer repainted the hood which turned out to be a mistake because then the hood was really black, and the rest of the car looked like it was a very dark brown because of the primer that showed through. They gave me the same song and dance about the paint meeting specs. They repainted the hood because it was really bad, and "didn't meet specs." I sold the car to a guy who isn't fussy so he thinks it is just fine. I was wary when I got the GXP but no such problem.
Oct 29, 2004 (11:23 am)
Funny as the 2003 Bonnevilles and the 2004 Bonnevilles are built in different plants. And the Hamtramck, MI plant where the 2004/2005 Bonnevilles are built is the JD Power Initial Quality North/South American Plant silver award winner (2nd) place.
#4158 of 4400 Saw first used GXP in classified ads
Nov 02, 2004 (6:47 am)
In the Washington Post, local car dealer is advertising used 04 GXP for $29,995. Second week for this ad.
#4160 of 4400 Re: [montanafan]
Nov 05, 2004 (1:42 pm)
Not so funny if you own one of these. It is really to bad, nice looking, drives nice and they don't want to know anything ! I hit a deer and had to replace the hood and front bumper so at least they look good now. The insurance adj put on the estimate that the car had prior damage "This veh has paint defects from the factory, paint appears thin and see through to primer in many areas near edges" I call GM back
again and told them - they said they are closing their file and marking it unsatisfied. They won't let me speak to a manager. I explained I just wanted to meet with the rep. and show him what I'm unhappy with - they said NO. I tried to bring it to the dealer a second time ( In NY you must let the dealer have the car three times before you can apply under the lemon law) and was told by the service manager that they could not write the car in again per GM.
I have purchased 13 New GM's since 1984 - one every 18 mths and they can't give me the time of day. I currently have a 2003 Z-71 Suburban, MSRP $47,000+ , 2000 Buick Regal GS , MSRP $28,000+ and the 2004 GXP, MSRP $37,400 and this is the way they treat me ? By the way, I have now found three other Midnight blue GXP's owners with the same problem and in checking the internet , while there are plenty of other colors I can't find a blue one in NYS
Nov 06, 2004 (4:59 am)
Wow! That's pretty shabby treatment for a loyal GM customer. Hard to believe. I guess I'd be tempted to get myself a lawyer, but that could also end with you just spending a bunch of money for no result. I guess you could also have the car repainted yourself if you really like the car, but that would be expensive, too, and you really shouldn't have to do that. I just can't believe GM is dusting you off like that. Sounds like the paint defect problem is pretty widespread, especially with the blue cars. I know a guy with a blue GXP--he's not an acquaintance--I just see his car at the dealer for service every now and then, but I've not paid any attention to his paint. I'll check it out next time I see it. I've seen several '04 and '05 GXP's at the dealership in all colors except blue. None have appeared to have had the paint problem.
I have 12,000 miles on my GXP now. Still getting 17-18mpg in town and 23-24 on the highway. Only modifications have been a K&N air filter and Mobil One. Just had the intermediate steering shaft replaced. Same problem as I had on my '03 SSEi--a series of "knocks" came through the steering wheel when turning either direction. Felt like bad bearings.
The only other problem I've had was with the auxiliary air inflator system--it didn't work. They worked some magic with the computer system to get it working.
One of my early concerns was with the suede inserts on the seats. I thought they would start looking worn or discolored prety quick, but that hasn't happened. Still look like new. A pleasant surprise was the fact that on 100-degree days this summer, the leather part of the seats was hot but the suede inserts were noticeably cooler.
Chaps, sure hope you get the paint problem resolved. What a bad thing to detract from an otherwise great car.
Nov 08, 2004 (7:56 am)
Chaps, I'm sorry to hear about your paint issues but I have to ask: why did you buy the car with this issue? Did you just not notice it or is it such a slight thinness in the color that it is only seen at certain angles in bright sunlight?