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Pontiac Bonneville, Sedan
#1097 of 4400 looking in Rochester, NY
Mar 31, 2001 (10:23 am)
1st post. I have owned a green 92 bonneville Se that I put 177,000 on. I still own a 97 black se with 120,000 on it and am currently looking for a
a loaded 99, but not having a ton of luck here in Rochester and surrounding parts. Almost bought one from a private seller last week that had "some rear end damage". He just forgot to tell me that the car had been totalled. Minor details...best twenty bucks I ever spent was for carfax!
Anyway, I'm stuck at the 1999 level because Pontiac in it's infinite wisdom decided to reduce the head room for 2000! Being 6'4" doesn't work for the new line...aargghh
Talk to ya later....
#1098 of 4400 The Owners Club offer remains open
Mar 31, 2001 (10:33 am)
When I brought it up a few weeks ago, the only responses that I recall getting were "thanks, but no thanks" - if there is any interest here at all, what we could do is start one up and just see how it goes.
It doesn't have to change a thing for the folks not interested. This discussion will remain here and if it is the only one some folks want to hang out in, I don't think those folks would see any differences.
On the Owners Club board, this discussion would also appear, and there would be a few more discussions added at the request of members. Karen usually starts off with a few discussions like "Meet the Members", "Photo Gallery" and maybe a maintenance issues discussion.
If there is interest, at some point a regularly scheduled live owners' chat could be started.
This might make more sense to you if you go to the Owners Clubs Board and look at a few of the clubs. Chrysler 300M and Acura MDX are small ones that might give you idea of how it would start out. Notice that the main discussions for each appear both on the Owners Club Board and the original board (Sedans for the 300M discussion and SUVs for the MDX).
I'm really not trying to talk you folks into anything, I'm just a little puzzled at the responses I got earlier and now one person has expressed interest. Feel free to tell me to shut up and go away, if that's what you want to do.
OTOH, I'm very happy to answer any questions you might have or address any of your concerns about this.
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#1099 of 4400 Owner's club
Mar 31, 2001 (3:33 pm)
I went to the Acura MDX site as Pat suggested and it does have the same feel as this forum so I would vote to start one up. Some of us may not be capable of posting pictures due to lack of a scanner or the technical skills (guilty on both counts) but other than that, my vote would be a go.
Picked my car up from the dealer after the ignition module replacement. Almost suffered "the big one" as I pulled in. There was another SSEi exactly like mine parked in the service area that I assumed was mine. What stuck out was that it had a dent in the front fender. For those of you that have seen some of the earlier posts, even after a year +, mine does not have so much as a paint chip, let along door dings or dents. I told myself to be calm when I got out to look because maybe there was another explanation. As you can guess, I was very relieved that the car wasn't mine.
The first thought I actually had was where would I get the fender repainted because the dealer's "body shop" is little more than a stall next to the service area. When my car was delivered new, it had a blemish on the hood almost as if someone had put their hand on the primer before final painting. I elected to just let it go and chalk it up to GM's mediocre build quality rather than risk making everything worse by letting the dealer refinish the hood. Speaking of paint, I'm something of an amateur car painter and one area I was disappointed on this car was the amount of orange peel on the finish. I have done work in my garage that was better than this car even with GM's multi-million dollar paint shop. Look at a Lexus sometime for example and compare the two cars for orange peel. You'll see that there is no comparison at all between the two.
#1100 of 4400 Excuse rea98d's dumb question #506, but...
Mar 31, 2001 (3:41 pm)
What is "orange peel?" Does paint fumes make people want to eat citrus while they work?
#1101 of 4400 Growl and Owners Club
Mar 31, 2001 (4:07 pm)
1) I too would like to hear more growl from my 2000 SSEi exhaust. To me it is too quiet. I like my muscle car look but miss having muscle car sound. Any inexpensive way to add it? In the old days we flipped over the carburetor cover to enhance the sound.
2) What would be the difference between an Owners Club discussion and this one? I don't understand what sets them apart. pat?
#1102 of 4400 smfran
Mar 31, 2001 (4:44 pm)
It's the fact that you get to have more specialized discussions in addition to this one. And the fact that - if you want - you will have the opportunity to have regularly scheduled live chats with each other at some point. Did you take a look at the existing Clubs as I suggested? That should make it all clearer, but do ask me any questions you might have.
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Mar 31, 2001 (5:35 pm)
I probably have less growl than you SSEi owners and I certainly haven't done anything to enhance it. My background is with Japanese family machines where growl would have been out of place - so there wasn't any. The Bonneville's nicely tuned exhaust is music to my ears - enough growl to let you know that you've got 200+ ft.lbs. of torque available to you but not so much as to offend the "Toyota generation" (of which I am an one of the older members - having had one in my family all but continuously since 1968!). Still, the Bonnie's growl is evident enough when you floor it. Something I'm starting to do not that I've passed my psychological break-in point of 4,000 miles.
Despite the fact that my wife's brother is a diesel mechanic (or perhaps because of it), I don't think I could pass a more open exhaust sound by the boss. Maybe I buy that used SSEi and leave her the SLE...
#1104 of 4400 On the owner's group
Mar 31, 2001 (5:57 pm)
A couple of questions Pat:
can we have links to the existing archived discussion? how about the "Pontiac Bonneville Problems" forum as well?
is there any capacity for Edmunds to host a page where we could post links (as opposed to having them in posts)? I'm thinking that this could be a useful way for us to maintain direct links to other websites, perhaps even have a gallery of members (don't worry guys, photos wouldn't be required) and their vehicles (the images themselves could be hosted elsewhere).
Pat, my questions are getting at the root of how we access information - posts, by their nature, are sequential and topics meander. The same question comes up every few months as new players join into the discussion. With a little bit of work, one member could take the lead and organize past "intelligence" and capture and subsequently update it. If this is done as a chat forum posting, these summaries will eventually get lost and be hard to access in the future. In these cases, a maintained website will be far more effective. Obviously, this is not what you're offering here. Still, don't get the impression we're not grateful for Edmunds' TownHall - I personally think it's the cat's pyjamas!
To the rest of the guys: I think we could make this thing work provided that there is an understanding that if you post something to the problems discussion group (or perhaps others), you let the rest of us know in this main thread. At the worst, an owner's group would just be a consolidation of what already exists and perhaps a few additional underused fora (threads); at best, it could provide newbies a quicker way of "catching up" and researching (a) the club; and (b) any technical issues.
P.S. I have experienced serious difficulties posting today - this is the 3rd attempt at posting this message!!!
Mar 31, 2001 (5:59 pm)
Haven't noticed any on mine - beautiful, shimmering, paint job - looks like it was poured on. Certainly no dimples that I would call orange peel.
the iceman will "cool off" and leave this forum to the rest of you guys for a while.
Mar 31, 2001 (7:35 pm)
With the smaller pulley,the Thrasher cold air induction kit and a pair of Vortex mufflers. I have just enough growl. The sound of the supercharger with the CAI is great. I got the mufflers installed for $160.00. There aluminizied steel but the shop gave me a lifetime warranty. There's nothing like the sound of a supercharger in the morning.