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Acura RL, Sedan
#869 of 7386 Random replys, suggestions
Aug 25, 2002 (10:15 pm)
As for the 2003 RL, Motor Trend and Automobile Magazines will soon publish (if not already on the newsstands) their 2003 new car previews. Surely whatever changes, if any, that Acura has in store for the RL will be referenced. Only thing I can find out is that little will change for 2003 with some big changes coming in 2004. What those changes will be are still the subject of much speculation. Several months ago Motor Trend said a V8 w/rear wheel drive and a price in the $73K range. But as noted above, that may not happen. Regardless, Honda/Acura needs to find something that will kick start the sales of the RL.
One note on the indash vs trunk mounted CD, the RL's stereo "has the best sound I've ever heard in a car"...so says an informed friend of mine. Me thinks he's right.
mevande aka Mike, I feel your pain of stupid design. Imagine how difficult life would be if you had the new 740 with a little silver button that controls 90% of the car. $74K for that much trouble? Not to mention the growing number of owners tired of taking their new 740s back to the shop for numerous (and constant) "fixes". The horror!
Not sure it will help, but www.homelink.com is a good place to start with regards to what does and does not work with your system. Some garage door openers just won't work with Homelink.
kiiwii, I haven't heard about crash test results on the RL, but didn't the TL get a "good" rating all around? Might want to do an extensive search of the Internet. I'll bet there are details out there somewhere.
kennyg5, yes, there is an alarm and it's most useful for finding the car in a crowded parking lot. Pity the alarm arms itself despite the trunk being opened. And Joe, my alarm has wild swings in its range. But for the most part, it usually exceeds 40ft. Perhaps a new battery?
As for OnStar, read more about it at www.onstar.com. I like it but beyond the basic package, I find their prices a little too rich. Plus their prices for cellular phone service is just waaaaaaaaay too high.
pwsharpe - which Acura dealer? I've never been denied a loaner while under warranty (I was even given one when I had some non-warranty work done). I think a phone call to Acura Customer Service is in order!
#870 of 7386 Speed sensitive steering
Aug 26, 2002 (9:33 pm)
Since my car is new to me, I have no frame of reference but it seems the steering is heavy at slow speeds. It feels like the steering is adjusted for freeway speeds even when tooling around the parking lot. Does anybody know if there is some info/history about the speed sensitive steering going bad?
#871 of 7386 Autoweek.com reports
Aug 27, 2002 (8:08 am)
a new car in 2004, but no V-8 or RWD ("Market is too small"?!?)
So get ready for more of the same! Big car, FWD, big six.
#873 of 7386 I wonder which audience is smaller?
Aug 27, 2002 (10:30 am)
#874 of 7386 potential '04 RL improvements
Aug 27, 2002 (3:37 pm)
If they produce around 270 HP with this projected 3.8L V-6, a 5-speed AT like the TL/CL, six-CD in-dash changer, along with up-dated exterior lines (especially the rear), and without losing the smooth ride, I'll open my checkbook as long as the MSRP stays under $46K for the non-NAV.
#875 of 7386 RL Safety Data
Aug 27, 2002 (4:25 pm)
The RL and other lower volume makes often do not get crash tested. There is a report from The Highway Loss Safety Institute(www.highwaysafety.org) that is entitled "Injury Collision and Theft Losses." This is based on actual loss data as I recall. The latest report says the index for Injury and Collision for a 1998-2000 Honda Civic is 125 for example. This is in a range termed "worse than average". An Accord is rated as 102 exactly the same as a Camry. An Acura RL is rated as 66(Lexus LS 400 is 55) and is in a range termed "substantially better than average." The other data from test has a disclaimer that you are to compare cars from the same weight class only. All this says to me that the RL is a very safe care indeed. I know of no other safety data on the RL maybe someone else does.
Aug 28, 2002 (3:41 am)
I want to thank edmunds for there TMV pricing,I went to two acura dealers and after there offer said edmunds says $36,000 is a true price, one said nothing after trying to steal my trade and the other said, we can sell for less than that. They are now at $34,900 on a new 3.5RL, Boston Acura if your interested. Nice people.
Aug 28, 2002 (9:31 am)
heck, if they just raise the V6 HP to 250 or more, and add a sport suspension option (yes, I do have a hangup on suspensions, as I believe every vehicle should handle corners well regardless of luxury or sport intention), who needs a V8???...it's just that vehicles that handle like they are driven thru molasses should handle better...handling/cornering should not be an option, it should be standard...
Aug 28, 2002 (4:09 pm)
I don't think any this will turn the trick in the current market. Right now there is a V6 280 hp, and though it's in a sports car (350Z) it is a mass market vehicle, not a specialty car. If Honda wants the RL to pick up market share they're going to have to offer something that's perceived as better than competitors, not just adequate for current owners.
They will need to offer hp that is perceived as adequate for a "big" car, just for the marketing, and I think the 300 hp barrier should be in their sites. And it's not unreasonable at 3.8 liter if they apply VVTi and other Honda technology.
They will also need electronic gadgetry. Navigation was good once upon a time. Now -- Maybe voice-activated cupholders, tire pressure monitors that tell you when you have enough air in the tires (as you fill them!), maybe a combination fridge and subwoofer in the center console?
Well, the point is that they have to come up with something that will be perceived as worth $45,999 (prophet2's suggested number) and competitive with Lexus, MB, Infiniti, BMW and so on.
If they bring out a car in the mid-200s in hp, with nothing very special other than "nice" to drive, we'll have another car like Infiniti's M45 -- priced at the 40s but perceived as bland and predicted to be like the current RL ... offering little buyer interest until its price descends pretty far into the $30s.
Just speaking as a customer .....