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#7246 of 7386 2009 RL - already universally hated?
Feb 19, 2008 (10:59 pm)
After reading all the articles, blogs, and comments, there appears to be overwhelming dislike for the new RL. Vehement, even. Some talk about a complete redesign in 2010, but this 4-year turnaround for the RL redesign was pretty quick for Honda, so I'm not so sure about another complete redesign after only one year. I haven't heard anything about a 2010 redesign other than the blogs.
Of course, I too wish the new RL looked like the Jaguar XF, or the Aston Martin line, or the Bentley Continental GTC, or, or, .... Still, technologically, this car is superior.
For me, Honda/Acura is/are great 200,000 mile cars. If I only drove 10,000 miles per year, I might be driving an A6 or A8; 5 or 7 series, etc., never having had a problem with any car in the first 50,000 miles. The equation changes when high mileage kicks in; maintenance costs and reliability become a larger factors.
Financially, the RL can't be worth the development and production cost for the number of units sold.
#7247 of 7386 Road noise on 2005 RL - Typical?
Feb 19, 2008 (9:42 pm)
We are evaluating a used 2005 RL with 26,000 miles on it.
Great car and comfortable ride, but a lot of road noise coming from the tires, both the freeway and at moderate speeds in city.
In reading through the forums I don't see that this is a common problem. I did note a comment about tire over-inflation.
Anyone experiencing excessive road noise on their RL?
We are replacing our 1998 MB E320, which is a quiet ride, but this RL is noisier than even the TL's we've test-driven.
#7248 of 7386 Re: Road noise on 2005 RL - Typical? [benel45]
Feb 21, 2008 (10:49 am)
Personally I am not overly sensitive to the road noise from the O.E. tires but it is noticable and in this forum there have been comments about it going back over the 3.25 years the car has been on the road. If you like the car and buy it as is with only 29,000 miles on those tires you might have to put up with it for a year or so. On the other hand you could try to negotiate a better price and put new Michelin Ultra Pilots on right away for about $950
Feb 23, 2008 (2:06 pm)
According to a report in "Automotive News," trade journal of the auto industry, Acura intends to move its new products up to "Tier 1" (BMW, Mercedes, Lexus). We'll see when the new TL debuts this year and the RL next year.
#7250 of 7386 Re: Tier 1? [bartalk3]
Feb 24, 2008 (7:31 am)
Long time since I saw your posts in here...Good to see you again. Automotive News "Tier 1" Does that mean the RL will have finally "arrived"?
Edmunds has had the RL in their Luxury Performance Sedans group since 2005 competing with BMW 5 series, Lexus, Mercedes, Audi, Cadillac STS, etc.
Looking forward to see what Acura does with the TL next model year. We've seen the 2009 RL.
Feb 25, 2008 (3:57 pm)
Fellow Acura loyalist I think Acura would somehow like to elevate the status of their vehicles to the BMW, Mercedes, Lexus level. Prestige is tricky. How do you do that? For one, they need to separate themselves more from Honda, as Lexus does from Toyota. A lot of Acura parts, I notice, are labeled Honda. That doesn't help the elite image. Also, as Lexusguy sagely observed on that other chat room, the TL almost always follows the introduction of a new Accord by one year. In other words, built on the Accord platform, the TL is just an upscale and sportier variation. That will probably be true this year as Acura rolls out the new TL following by one year the new Accord. Expect similarities.
Lexusguy also observed that one limitation of the RL over the other elite brands is that there's virtually no choice of engine or transmission options. We'll see what Acura does. Prestige is a tricky thing to manipulate.. Infinti, by the way, would like to do the same. Their cars are great, but the name doesn't have quite the cache of the others.
#7252 of 7386 Re: Tier 1? [bartalk3]
Feb 26, 2008 (3:27 am)
I agree that the prestige issue is very tricky. Acura has a very high quality automobile in the RL but has not been universally thought of in the same prestige level as Lexus and Mercedes or even BMW. Why is that? Lexus Guy has some good points but there is something else that is missing. Is it the Bling Thing? PERHAPS!
#7253 of 7386 Re: Tier 1? [jjacura]
Feb 26, 2008 (12:21 pm)
From what I read, Acura gets knocked the most for not offering an 8 cylinder engine and not offering RWD. Bland styling is also part of the knock, though.
#7254 of 7386 Re: Tier 1? [pat]
Feb 26, 2008 (2:51 pm)
How can I argue with a hostess... (Good to see you are keeping an Eagle eye on this tired old forum, Pat.) Actually though for me...When I see an RL, a Lexus, a Mercedes, or a BMW coming down the road I'll quickly look but I still do a double take on the RL. I love the subtle lines, the unheralded handsome good looks of the RL. I don't know about a V-8 in their plans but it is rumored that Acura is bringing on a powerful diesel 6...now that could be interesting. They have also refined the SH AWD in the 2009 and I can't imagine bringing on a RWD now.
#7255 of 7386 Re: Tier 1? [jjacura]
Feb 26, 2008 (5:17 pm)
Oh, I'm always here and it's always very good to see you, George and everyone else. You all should come around more often!!
Personally, I do like the understated looks of the RL. I was just saying what I read. I guess we'll see what happens down the road. A diesel would be quite interesting!