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Replying to: washdcguy (Aug 11, 2005 1:06 am) |
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Replying to: mamika (Sep 08, 2000 9:11 pm) |
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Tried the new Avalon and found it quite different than was just described. (But then, people will differ.) I thought the interior was a BIG step down from that offered in the RL, materials-wise (fit and finish were fine). The sound system, for all its power was not nearly as clear as the system in the RL. And the handling...whoa! It drove like a big fat boat. But personal taste is what picking a car is all about. Enjoy your Avalon. I hope you have many happy years with the car. It's just not an automobile I'd ever drive, let alone purchase. |
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Replying to: jhuton (Aug 11, 2005 9:38 pm) |
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Replying to: jjacura (Aug 11, 2005 12:38 pm) Essentially, a hybrid benefits the ecology but damages the pocketbook. If Acura was to turn out a hybrid luxury performance sedan, imagine the implied cost. You and I particularly, would desire the new technology package, the cost of which, in combination with the added hybrid technology, would by 2011 no doubt exceed $65K or even $70K. Conceivable? The added MPG savings would recede far into the background, ground to dust by the enormity of the 2011 price. Having concern for the ecology is laudable, but in consideration of the price of fuel and the cost of going hybrid, there woiuld be no $$$ saved, IMHO. One thing is certain: if Acura went to a Luxury Performance V-8, rhe CD writer would probably write: "So, why no hybrid?"
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Replying to: acuraphile (Aug 12, 2005 7:19 am) Thanks for the reminder ...my thinking was .....pennywise and dollar foolish!  Jake |
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Replying to: jhuton (Aug 11, 2005 9:38 pm) You are selling yourself short by going with Avalon...poor decision while maintaining brand loyalty. BTW...which Acura did you own to have established your customer service viewpoint? Enjoy the Toyota dealership care experience which is surely as fine as Lexus.
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Replying to: jjacura (Aug 12, 2005 5:17 am) 1) I disagree with your analogy about owning an RL and going to an LS 430 forum. An RL and LS are really not comparable. Different features and buyers. Same reason I wouldn't compare my LS to an S class or 7 Series (different prestige levels and buyer needs). Like it or not, the RL is much more comparable to the Avalon Ltd. than to an LS430. The cost difference between an Avalon Ltd. and RL is only about $10k - this is less than many option packages in the V-8 luxury class. 2) You can make this about money (ie, settling for a TL or Avalon) but that really isnt the point. If Honda were to make an Accord that is faster, roomier and similarly equipped to the RL, the RL wouldn't be a better car just because it cost twice as much. I don't understand your Bluetooth comment. You can buy an $18k car with BT- hopefully this single feature doesn't define your car or your buying experience. Even Car & Driver admits that the $49k RL msrp is higher than they would expect for similarly equipped v-6 cars. 3) The subject matter in the forum relates to Dealer Service - which is exactly the context of my last post. I had every intention of buying an RL a month ago, it is a FINE car, BUT, if based on multiple trips to the Acura dealer I am underwhelmed by their experience, courtousy, and technical knowledge -- I'm not going to buy a car from them just to find out for sure that the dealer is not so good!!
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Replying to: jhuton (Aug 12, 2005 8:08 am) |
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Replying to: delmar1 (Aug 12, 2005 8:01 am) I didnt care for the features of the Avalon Touring or LX, but the Avalon Limited model is remarkably similar to my LS (absent fewer pieces of wood trim and maybe a couple extreme Lexus features like the power back seat messagers and fridge in my LS). I conclued owning another loaded LS at $65k wasn't prudent for a few extra bells or as a second car. And, ES really reminds me of Camary (not to imply in any way that Camary is a bad car). See earlier comments as to Acura dealership service. No need to repeat poor experiences. (sales is acutally part of customer service last I checked) As far as the comment about Toyota dealership care being as fine as Lexus, I agree that you get what you pay for but I am willing to give up the free Starbucks at the Acura and Lexus dealerships for my 2nd car. The $9k that I saved from not buying the RL will buy me 5,625 cups of Starbucks (tall, black coffee at $1.60 per cup) OR 450 hand car washes (  $20 a pop) - but I guess that's not a fair comparison since the Acura dealer near me doesn' hand wash anymore anyway. (Lexus does!)
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