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Re: CR [msu79gt82] by satire
Aug 10, 2005 (2:06 pm)
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Replying to: msu79gt82 (Aug 04, 2005 11:16 am)

"What a joke This line of BS is pure satire right?"
 
If anything, I'd probably say my comments were sarcastic. But my intent was to make a point and apparently I did. However, do you feel that this forum is an appropriate place to be insulting? "Deluded"???
 
As I said, for what it's worth, Consumer Reports will play no role in any decision I make regarding a new car. I continue to encourage everyone to seek other opinions as well. After all, how many times has CR been taken to task for making false statements about their test cars? I seem to recall at least two.
 
And while it's fine if Consumer Reports calls a product a piece of crap beware if they give something a glowing review. Why? Because CR refuses to allow anyone to quote them. Do so and CR files a lawsuit. Sorry my dears, I don't have time for such hypocrisy and self-righteousness. Note to Consuder Reports, it's only an opinion, not a divine judgment. Get off the cross, we need the wood.
 
Now, stepping down off my soapbox, y'all can harbor whatever opinion you want about CR. But please don't belittle mine simply because you don't agree.
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05 RL window problem... by flyaway123
Aug 10, 2005 (4:02 pm)
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Does or have anyone had a problem with any window in their 05 RL not lowering? My RL has this problem. The car is in service now and the service manager told me he has two other cars with the same problem but different windows. I would love to pass on a solution. I want my car back! Anyone?
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Re: CR [satire] by frisconick
Aug 10, 2005 (7:16 pm)
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Replying to: satire (Aug 10, 2005 2:06 pm)

Tell me where has CR been accused of false statements? Peope quote CR all the time, what are you talking about? Make statements of fact, tell me where has CR ever been considered biased? If anything, CR is the most unbiased place of infor in the car world.
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A Long-time Subscriber, But Not A Worshipper by washdcguy
Aug 11, 2005 (1:06 am)
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To anyone who believes that CR's opinions on cars is highly worthwhile, you have my unending sympathy. CR's automotive division takes its marching orders from David Champion and Alan Hanks, two rather opinionated individuals, who have long appeared to "guide" the general direction of all CR car reviews that are eventually published. The review of the RL was total hogwash. For example, it's navigation system is much more intelligently laid out than the Infiniti's (as previous CR opinions of Honda systems attest to), is better at recognizing spoken commands, and is accessible while en-route (not just while stopped on the side of the road). But these items were either incorrectly reported or not mentioned in the comparison test. Equally disturbing was the failure to mention the ease of using spoken commands for climate, audio, and essential controls. Instead, the focus was placed on the central layout that Mr. Champion and Hanks appear to dislike. Noise is substantially higher in the Infiniti, especially at idle, but was passed over. Etc. etc. Shame.
 
Because other than its "God-like" opinion of itself, CR is a useful publication when it comes to paints, household products, and the like. However, to take its opinions regarding automobiles, as anything other than just another opinion, is laughable. It's frequency of repair records are tremendously skewed because of its subscriber base (unlike more objective reports than are still available via the internet and other consumer organizations). CR doesn't do objective surveys of the car buying public. It merely sends out "quickie" check off lists to those who already subscribe and buy into the CR mystique. (I know because though I continue to subscribe and get those little check off lists.) But also, over the years, people well acquainted with the publication have told me what sections to view with suspect eyes. If you truly believe CR knows automobiles that well, by all means follow its reports like dogma, like gospel itself.
 
But I strongly recommend that anyone investing in expensive automobiles draw from many sources and in the end, make evaluations based on his/her own personal experiences and preferences. You will be the one sitting in that car, driving on the highway, going to and from work, picking up the kids, and so on. CR's staff will not be in the car with you. CR is just one tool. Nothing more. (Though it is high on CR's agenda that you view it as the only source to go to; an important part of its funding drives and continued existence rests on your assumptions that it is virtually infallible.) But it is not the final source by any means, especially when it comes to automobiles.
 
This little diatribe was, of course, just another opinion.
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Re: CR [satire] by jjacura
Aug 11, 2005 (9:30 am)
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Replying to: satire (Aug 10, 2005 2:06 pm)

Not just because I agree with you about CR but more importantly my respect goes out to you for standing up for yourself against the flippy remarks. I have been a little mystified by the "Turncoat" attitude of your assailant anyway. And yes, we indeed do need the wood!
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Re: Prospective RL V-8 by acuraphile
Aug 11, 2005 (11:33 am)
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Replying to: jjacura (Aug 10, 2005 6:45 am)

A while back, I was in contact with one of the AutoWeek columnists. He said that the Honda engineers were adamant about turning out a V-8 because of its fundamental imbalance. The rumored V-8 is no surprise however, considering the enormous pressure generated by the snide comments of the auto mag writers. I can't help but note the negative bias of a writer who lauds the RL and then, parenthetically, asks: "So where's the V-8?" It's like a tic. They can't contain this dig!
My RL's V-6 is just purring along - never asking why it hasn't got two more sisters
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Re: Prospective RL V-8 [acuraphile] by jjacura
Aug 11, 2005 (12:38 pm)
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Replying to: acuraphile (Aug 11, 2005 11:33 am)

My friend Acuraphile...I will no doubt replace the RL before 2011 and have no problems with the VTec 6. It is a great engine. I'm wondering though, in light of what I paid for a full tank of gas about 1 hour ago, whether or not Acura will bring to us a Hybrid Luxury Performance sedan? (Or does the term "Performance" necessarily negate a Hybrid potential.) Any thoughts on that subject? I believe Lexus has some hybrids coming soon.
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Paint Problem with the 05RL? by larry6
Aug 11, 2005 (2:30 pm)
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Have others of you encountered a strange problem with the paint on the 05RL i.e., getting tacky in spots?
 
We noticed a spot on the driver's side right front panel that looked sticky - but we were not sure whether it was the paint - or something else. After trying to remove it with a spray McGuires product that claims to remove different types of spots... we were convinced it was the paint.... not something else. We are wondering if this is a general problem...or just one confined to our vehicle...which in every other way has been quite wonderful.
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Re: A Long-time Subscriber, But Not A Worshipper [washdcguy] by frisconick
Aug 11, 2005 (6:08 pm)
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Replying to: washdcguy (Aug 11, 2005 1:06 am)

CR recommends the RL, and puts the TL in top of it's class. I think that is reasonable. CR does not say the Navi is bad just not intuitive. What's wrong with that? They also put the Accord top of it's class, so they are not anti-Honda or Acura. Just an unbiased good mag.
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Re: Dealers [mamika] by jhuton
Aug 11, 2005 (9:38 pm)
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Replying to: mamika (Sep 08, 2000 9:11 pm)

I too have found repeatedly that customer service at Lexus and Toyota dealers is better than Acura. I drive an 04 LS430 and recently was in the market for a similar sized 2nd car that would cost less but have the same features. I made several trips back to Acura and test drove the RL twice. A friend recommended I look at the Avalon Limited instead, which was a great suggestion. The Avalon is larger, faster, and less "plasticy" than the RL interior. Also, cooling front seats, reclining rear seats and 360watt JBL 12 speaker w/ voice controlled Navigation blew away the RL standard equipment. The only feature RL has not in Avalon is Bluetooth; easily resolved with an aftermarked BT kit. Either way I found both Toyota and Lexus dealer to be incredibly helpful. Easy to do w/ good cars I suppose...

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