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Re: CR [msu79gt82] by jjacura
Aug 04, 2005 (12:39 pm)
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Replying to: msu79gt82 (Aug 04, 2005 11:16 am)

Repair record histories of cars is simple fact gathering and there isn't quantifiable or subjective or passionate info findings involved.
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CR Comparo by bartalk3
Aug 06, 2005 (7:21 am)
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Yes, let me second the post that said that the guys who test the cars at CR do not test hair dryers or washing machines. They are technically trained people who test just cars. They buy their cars anonymously from dealers rather than getting cars from the manufacturer which might be hopped up for the review, etc. They have no agenda, no conflict of interest, no vested interest in any outcome. Are they human? Can they make mistakes? Sure. I thought their review of the Lexus GS300 was unduly critical, for example. They are subject to biases like everybody else, but they are not corrupt, bought off, bribed, or influenced by anything but their own reactions to their own tests.
 
By the way, read in Motor Trend that the RL will be getting a V-8. In 2011.
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Re: CR Comparo [bartalk3] by steveinindy
Aug 06, 2005 (11:57 am)
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Replying to: bartalk3 (Aug 06, 2005 7:21 am)

As the person who started this discussion, let me first say that I do not claim there is any fraud or willful misconduct on the part of CR. In fact, their empirical data, which is not subject to opinion or bias, demonstrates that the RL has some of the best statistics, including performance, reliability and safety, of all of the tested cars.
 
I have been a subscriber of CR for many years, and my observation is that CR gets an opinion about a particular line or model of car, and year after year says the same thing about the car, regardless of substantial changes in the car, which other evaluators recognize and give due credit for.
 
Another example of this is my wife's Chevy Suburban. We owned a '96, and it was unreliable, and not a very good car. CR gave a fairly brutal, but accurate assessment of its shortcomings. We traded the 96 in for a 2002, and substantial improvements had been made, which other evaluators lauded. In fact, the entire chassis was redesigned, and the entire ride was changed. We still own it and it's a good car--although it could never compare to my RL! When the CR report came out, all the black marks for various components in the Suburban had been changed to red, indicating above average responses and performance. It truly was a totally different and improved car.
 
If you look at the narrative on the 2002 Suburban from CR, they even continue to use the exact same wording as the 96 evaluation and make no mention of the improved performance or styling, instead choosing to focus on their preconceived notions of what they believe the car is and how it performs. That is all I am saying--CR appears to stick with its preconceived ideas of the car and does not allow the data to affect its conclusions.
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Re: CR Comparo [steveinindy] by bartalk3
Aug 06, 2005 (12:44 pm)
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Replying to: steveinindy (Aug 06, 2005 11:57 am)

There's something to what you say about CR wedded to their views of cars regardless of the change. But you can't generalize. For example, the previous BMW 530 they loved & said it was one of the best cars they ever tested. When the current 530 came out, they criticized and downrated it
 
About reliability ratings they are sometimes inconsistent. For example, when a new Japanese model comes out (e.g., Camry, Accord, etc) they say its predicted reliability is very good or excellent. But when a new AMerican model comes out, they refuse to rate its reliability and withhold recommendation of the car, saying under reliability: "new model."
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CR Preconceived ideas by msu79gt82
Aug 06, 2005 (3:11 pm)
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For the longest time some people jested that CR was the paid marketing arm for Toyota Everyone has a bias and a product's past performance is certainly a "legitimate" basis for a bias. Clearly what many claim to be a pro Toyota/Lexus bias did not help the new GS much
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by bobob20032000
Aug 06, 2005 (4:09 pm)
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The 2006 Acura RL will have a Technology Package for the RL. The Technology Package will have:
          •Collision Mitigation Braking System (CMBS) - uses a grille-mounted radar unit, motorized seatbelt E-pretentioners on the driver’s and front passenger’s seats and an automatic braking system to monitor potential frontal collisions and help reduce the impact on occupants by alerting the driver, tensioning the seatbelts and slowing the vehicle.
          •Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) – To compensate for changing traffic flow, ACC adjusts vehicle speed automatically by applying throttle and/or brake to maintain a consistent following distance.
          •Michelin PAX Run-Flat tires - helps provide enhanced safety and security with continuous mobility of up to 125
 
Finally Acura is giving its flagship sedan more features. The 2006 Lexus GS/IS has all of these features already and is cheaper. This package is optional like on the Lexus and Toyota. Hopefully this helps Acura have better sales. Even the 2005 Toyota Avalon and Sienna have Dynamic Laser Cruise Control already and the Sienna even has run-flats on AWD models. Finally Acura gave it to its RL. But in its catergory, the RL and GS are the only car models that have radar cruise control and pre-collision system available that are known so far. The 2006 Acura RL will be better than the 2005 model.
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Re: CR Comparo [bartalk3] by jjacura
Aug 06, 2005 (5:57 pm)
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Replying to: bartalk3 (Aug 06, 2005 7:21 am)

bartalk, were you serious about the V-8...careful...some of us may be prone to believe you. It seems a little unusual to predict 6 model years ahead...hell we didn't get all of the info on the 2005 until it sat in the showroom.
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Lakeshore Silver and ebony or taupe interior by spinningwheels
Aug 08, 2005 (3:41 am)
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We're ready to purchase and have decided on the Lakeshore Silver exterior, although it was a difficult choice between the Celestial Silver, Desert Mist and Lakeshore. We have seen it with Ebony interior and like it but always felt that a dark interior would be too warm in the summer. We would like to see the Lakeshore with a taupe interior before purchasing, but none of the 3 dealers within 100 miles has one. Has anyone seen both interiors in the Lakeshore and have an opinion to offer? The black interior has a rich look and we're not sure about the taupe.
 
We had an extended test drive - all weekend - and enjoyed it tremendously! It felt somewhat noisy and a little rough on a bad piece of highway, but otherwise it's wonderful. Our cell phones even paired with no problem.
 
One problem yesterday, we received a message saying there was no keyless detected and we would be unable to restart the car if it was turned off. We drove home, stopped the engine, got out and started all over again. It worked fine. In addition, the radio wouldn't come on. Nothing but "enter code". To make a long story short, we finally found the "code" on a little card in the glove box among all of the manuals, etc, and was able to enter it and the radio was immdiately operable. Has anyone had a similar experience? Not the best experience, but we're still buying! We will, however, memorize the code!
 
Thanks for any assistance with the interior colors.
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Re: Lakeshore Silver and ebony or taupe interior [spinningwheels] by jsmaz1
Aug 08, 2005 (6:14 am)
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Replying to: spinningwheels (Aug 08, 2005 3:41 am)

I just picked up my Celestial Silver with Ebony and feel that its a great combination. I prefer it over the Taupe because it seems like the match is perfect with the darks and silvers, both inside and outside. I just didnt have the same feeling of cohesiveness with the Taupe.
 
It's a personal preference, so one person could like it one way, another an entire 180! Good luck.

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