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#6499 of 7386 Re: Revisiting the RL's Suspension [acuraphile]
Jun 29, 2005 (9:27 am)
Hi JJ and Acuraphile,
I know what you are saying about acura's suspension as they have been mooving toward stiffer suspension on all their models. I believe they are moving their design criteria toward more performance and hence a stiffer ride goes with it. Having said that though, I like the suspension in my 2005 RL, but I did get rid of my 2004 TL (traded it in on my 2005 RL) because it was too stiff to suite my tastes. The 2004/2005 TL almost jars your teeth when you hit a bump, by contrast I feel the 2005 RL is really smooth!! Yes it is firm, but not really too stiff.
Just my humble opinion.
#6500 of 7386 Re: Re Technology [nebraskaguy]
Jun 29, 2005 (9:28 am)
You've gone from complaining about all the "service" fees on the RL to arguing that nothing the RL has, except SH-AWD, is unique.
Absolutely not true and I don't get why you'd make that claim I have always admitted TWO technologies that are unique to the RL; SH-AWD and AcuraLinked NavTraffic (how can you deny that ???). Now I have questioned the value of the AcuraLinked NavTraffic. But I do thank you for clarifying that it is these TWO and only these TWO technologies that the RL can claim to uniquely offer something the competition cannot.
#6501 of 7386 Re: Revisiting the RL's Suspension [nebraskaguy]
Jun 29, 2005 (9:31 am)
"...both a smooth ride and sporty handling."
BMW seems to have a recipe for this.
#6502 of 7386 Re: Revisiting the RL's Suspension [acuraphile]
Jun 29, 2005 (9:39 am)
Now, however, after our 200 mile round trip, having been shaken to and fro, I have deep, deep regrets.With tax and extras, this purchase came to $54K and I'd be hard pressed to get $45K for it now as I know the car is being generously discounted.
Its no secret that after an earlier infatuation with the RL my feelings are leaning toward the M35 now. I still like some things about the RL; however I think the car is way overpriced to begin with. Its a nice car and all, but SH-AWD and AcuraLinked NavTraffic alone are NOT worth the premium in my opinion. Also I too was somewhat surprised that the ride was not smoother and quiter on my test drives.
But more to the point; I took my MDX in for an oil change this morning and there were 29 RLs on the dealer's lot (6 out front, 1 in the showroom, and 22 out back). I know for a fact that I can buy a brand new one for Invoice or less; I doubt very seriously you could get anywhere near $45K on a trade Good luck. Sterling McCall in Houston had a used (8000 miles) RL on the lot last week they offered me for $44K (includes extended warranty and 18" wheels).
#6503 of 7386 2002 TL Type S v/s 2002 RL ? Potential buyer
Jun 29, 2005 (12:42 pm)
I am interested in either a 2002 TL Type S or 2002 RL.
I know these are two different cars. I want the power of the Type S but have heard a lot of issues with the transmission. I am looking at the RL for the reliability. I would rather go for the TL Type S (more fun to drive) but would only go to RL for reliability.
#6504 of 7386 Re: 2002 TL Type S v/s 2002 RL ? Potential buyer [samirshah01]
Jun 29, 2005 (1:12 pm)
I used to own an '02 TL-S and was given an extended warranty for the transmission to 100K miles. My '02 had no issues during the 56K miles I owned it. I recommend that you inquire about the transmission of any '02 TL-S you find (perhaps consider Acura Certified) and ask about the 100K warranty.
#6505 of 7386 Re: Revisiting the RL's Suspension [tayl0rd]
Jun 29, 2005 (4:03 pm)
. "Hadn't your wife been transporting you around during your recovery?"
Surprisingly crisp inquiry, tayl.
Yes, but I was transported flat on my back on the rear seat, encased in a three foot steel brace that couldn't get by the front passenger door frame - I wasn't critiquing the ride during those moments.
Do you feel betrayed?
#6506 of 7386 Re: Revisiting the RL's Suspension [acuraphile]
Jun 29, 2005 (7:31 pm)
Acuraphile, Glad your quad recovery is coming along to the point of allowing you to drive the RL. Isn't it great to get way out on the eastern edge of Long Island. My brother-in-law had us join his family at a summer home near Sag Harbor in the 80's and we have good memories of that trip and how much it reminded us of Door County here in Wi. Ok George.. you came across a meaningful disappointment in your suspension system and I felt it in your post. I am very sorry that you feel the way you do about the ride because I know how much you like everything else about the car. I knew it had a sportier ride than previous RLs but far superior and smoother than the TL which we had passed on. I just returned from a 200 mile round trip today to my home town in the RL and was feeling great about everything. There were 4 of us (3 women) and it was a very smooth trip. I had to hit the jets a couple of times to move around some slow movers and the power is definately there when you need it. Hoping that your recovery continues and that you find greater comfort soon.
#6507 of 7386 RL Suspension
Jun 29, 2005 (8:03 pm)
Me thinks the suspension setting for the RL is just fine as is. In fact, I wouldn't mind a little less body roll around the curves, myself. Having driven many of the RL's competitors over the past few months, I would suggest that the RL's suspension is very much comparable to BMW, Lexus (sans the Beluga Whale LS and the Son-Of-Camry ES), Infiniti, and even Mercedes. The M35/45 definitely rides as tight or tighter than the RL, and with the Sport package, the M is considerably harsher. But many drivers like them that way.
To some extent, we don't have the best roads in some parts of the U.S., and I suppose washboard surfaces and suspension joints on some byways can cause a bit more of a jittery ride.
There have been a handful of complaints on these boards about the RL's suspension tuning being too stiff. Can I have a show of hands from those folks...are they over/under 60 yrs old? Compared to the previous RL, the current model definitely has a tighter suspension. The new RL is nothing like the prior model, that much is for sure.
A few complaints are also being registered regarding the touring suspension on the new Avalon. I think the older generation that got used to the Buick-esque ride of the previous Avalon was a bit shocked by the tighter touring version that is available on the new '06 Avalon.
Many of us like our cars to ride like the Barcoloungers in the family room. And the more cupholders the better.
Personally, I'd rather drive and feel the road. I think the RL is just right in this regard.
Jun 29, 2005 (9:53 pm)
The RL's ride can be dramatically upgraded by the addition of 18" wheels and premium tires like the Pirelli PZero Nero M+S. The combination of larger wheel size and softer, quieter riding rubber makes an incredible difference in the ride comfort road noise departments. Best part: the wonderful handling is the same or even better.
If you are at all uncomfortable with the ride (which is tight though supple in my opinion), I strongly urge you to look into 18" Pirelli's. You will not be disappointed.