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#6059 of 7386 Re: Only commenting from a Canadian perspective [mungoac]
Mar 14, 2005 (7:33 pm)
You're right, of course - my comment goes only to the fact that Infiniti resale values were terrible prior to the Ghosn reset - and that was a reason buyers were looking elsewhere. But there has been a vast resale value improvement (i.e., now Acura has no resale value 'advantage'. slight though it was prior to 2002).
Generally, 2006 M reviews are addressing fit and finish, luxury features and mechanicals in language that makes it clear that the M is more than competitive in every category. Again, just google the reviews and satisfy yourself.
No one is saying the RL isn't a nice car, or that it has problems - only that it's a rip-off in Canada, and people know it. Maybe if Acura brought the price back to $49K USD, I'd agree with all the Acura dealers furiously denying the obvious on this board!
#6060 of 7386 Does the RL really look like other cars to you guys
Mar 14, 2005 (8:47 pm)
Does the new RL really look like other Acura cars to you guys?
To me the front and the rear look unique to the RL only. I personally really like the front and the rear very much. I do not see any resemblance to other Acura cars or the Accord in regards to the front and rear.
Now...as far as the side view...it is kind of plain/generic...
But overall I think the car really looks great.
#6061 of 7386 Re: Only commenting from a Canadian perspective [valuebuyer]
Mar 14, 2005 (9:19 pm)
As I read your mail for the second time, I think I get your point. And then it occurs to me we're all victims.
Were you into cars in the 80's? That's when I dropped out, because you couldn't tell the difference between a Buick, Chevy, Point or Olds, mainly because of that swine Roger Smith. Not much different with the Fords for that matter. Anf they were all crap.
Toward the late 90's they got much better. I got interested again and started buying new cars, but dropped Detroit merchandise after a horrible experience with the Lincoln Mark VIII, which I traded for a very happy experience with an Acura CLS.
Nevertheless, we're still up against a pile of BS aren't we?
Meanwhile, if I can put it this way, I find that Honda/Acura is not necessarily the best car maker. But it is the one that irritates me the least.
When I started talking to Toyota about the moving-car-interlock on my Lexus nav system and had to listen to their paternalistic crap, I wanted to puke. And that even went for the old lady. And you know how THAT works. So I'm throwing in the towel with them, in spite of their very fine vehicles.
Having been through Benz, Toy/Lex, Jag, Volvo, BMW, Renault, Citroen, VW, GM, Ford, Chrysler, SAAB, Fiat, MG, Triumph, an NSU Ro80 and even a DKW (don't ask), I'm sticking with Honda Motors for a while.
Don't think that's an undivided endrosement of the RL -- it's still too buggy for that. No, my favorite car for the moment is the Honda CRV, which gives me absolute zero spit, although it's probably also overpriced in Canada - from where I see you write.
But look at it this way: Living in NYC, where they have just tripled the ticket for absolutely everything (I just got one for parking next to a telephone booth, where there USED to be a fire hydrant some 20 years ago. But the brownie mitch who admitted the mistake had already started the ticket and could only suggest I show up in this Kafkaesque maze known as NYC traffic court and all would be fine, sans my lost day, of course), I can assure you that you're probably doing OK.
So you'll understand that I must cruise up to your fine, civilized environment at least once a year in order to get my head back and where some of the people are born IN wedlock.
I guess they try to fleece you out of altogether too much money if it's the RL you must have. But other than that, you're doing just fine. Trust me.
#6062 of 7386 Re: Does the RL really look like other cars to you guys [kfhmail]
Mar 14, 2005 (9:27 pm)
Very interesting point of view, and you have helped me. I was parked out on Long Island the other day, in the middle of the block, the only car there. From half a block away, from the front, the car looked great. From the back, ditto. From the side, from the other side of the street, it was kind of ho-hum. Walking past it, it was like Acura-Accord-Acura. I like all three. Now I know how to describe my newest car.
#6063 of 7386 Re: Does the RL really look like other cars to you guys [mungoac]
Mar 14, 2005 (10:09 pm)
I think viewed from the front RL looks very good, even sporty. Back is a touch generic, kinda forgettable, but inoffensive, not too bad. Side view is where it resembles Accord the most, as you said. And the Accord is no beauty from the side.
#6064 of 7386 Re: Does the RL really look like other cars to you guys [kfhmail]
Mar 15, 2005 (7:48 am)
"To me the front and the rear look unique to the RL only. I personally really like the front and the rear very much. I do not see any resemblance to other Acura cars or the Accord in regards to the front and rear."
I wholeheartedly agree with you! To me, there is absolutely no resemblance, whatsoever, to the Accord. The RL is a fine looking automobile which has "elegance" written all over it...
#6065 of 7386 Re: Does the RL really look like other cars to you guys [kfhmail]
Mar 15, 2005 (8:06 am)
It looks like the previous generation Accord from the front and looks like an old 2.5CL from the rear. The side view is Bland City. Those are the family similarities. From the grand scheme of things, on a front and front 3/4 view, it's a dead ringer for a Mazda 3. You could put a Mazda badge on it and no one would notice.
I posted some comparison pics of the two several weeks ago. I believe it's in the Luxury Performance Sedan thread.
It's message #126 in the Acura RL vs. Audi A6 vs. BMW 5-Series vs. Jaguar S-Type vs. Lexus GS thread (page 8) in the Luxury Performance Sedans board.
#6066 of 7386 Re: Impressions Infiniti M-35x v. Acura RL v. Audi A6 3.2 [liy]
Mar 15, 2005 (8:18 am)
I found the cars very similar in road characteristics and luxury. There were a few factors that swayed me towards the Infiniti over the Acura --
1 -- Since I'm getting a "mid-sized car", I really wanted a larger rear seat. The Acura's rear seat is noticeably smaller.
2 -- Ditto on the trunk, where the Infiniti is about 25% bigger.
3 -- At least in my neighborhood, the Infiniti came out to be about $100 cheaper per month on a lease, for a comparably equipped car (AWD, Nav, Bose, heated seats, etc).
The other stuff is very subjective. I like the color of the dashboard lighting better on the Acura, and the Nav system's better restaurant listings and traffic reports also get higher grades than the M35X. The seats in the M35 are great (what an improvement over my G35!). The logos on the seat didn't matter to me. I probably like the color choices in Acura better (I ultimately settled for the Graphite in the G35; I didn't care for their red, while I did like the Acura's red).
Like I said, these are pretty subjective, except for the areas where the Infiniti is measurably "more usable", and "less expensive".
#6067 of 7386 Re: Does the RL really look like other cars to you guys [shotgun]
Mar 15, 2005 (2:17 pm)
Acura takes it cues from Honda like Lexus does from Toyota. I have Honda and Acura in my blood. Those who think the RL resembles the Accord probably have not owned both. Pictures are very deceiving. If you've owned and driven them you get the overall feel and there is an unmistakeable difference.
Tayl0rd..(Mazda 3...Hmmmm, my wife thinks it's "cute". Looking at pictures held at a certain angle it's a wannabe, with a long way to go in reality)
#6068 of 7386 Re: Impressions Infiniti M-35x v. Acura RL v. Audi A6 3.2 [fdmilder]
Mar 15, 2005 (2:39 pm)
Subjective stuff...but relevant to you. Probably your post would be more relevant if it was posted in Edmunds' "Luxury Performance Sedans" forum!!