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#5509 of 7386 05 Value vs Size @ 50K
Jan 01, 2005 (9:12 am)
Well I read the auto spies article too and I dorve a new 05 RL back in November, the first one my local dealer had. I own a 2004 TL and a 2005 Porsche Cayenne S.
My opinions on several items are as follows:
1.Yes the 2004 TL and 2005 RL are very close in size with the RL being only a couple of inches larger in most measurements, but to me I am not calculating the price per cubic in or lb. I am not buying beef I am buying technology, and IMO the RL has all sorts of goodies that cost extra. SHAWD, tire pressure monitors, Nav, XMradio, Computerized traction control, keyless entry and drive, Onstar,ect. I mean geezeee what do people want.
As for size, who wants a boat. Anyone price a Porsche 911 or Boxter, and how big are they, price per cubic ft of total size, price per lb, ect.
Professionally I am a mechanical engineer and you get what you pay for, nothing comes free. With Acura we are just lucky we aren't paying for all the goodies individually as options like Porsche does. The RL fully equipped would probably cost about $10k more!
To me the RL handles well gets really decent MPG, has decent power 300 HP and pleanty
torque for its design niche.
No car can be everything to everybody. Man what a dull world that would be anyway.
2.Having said all that, I want one, but the car is in such high demand here in Ohio that the dealer wnats me to take a $8000 bath (no negotiation yet) on my 10 month old 04 tl with just 1500 miles on it. Well it does have the wing, front, side and rear underbody treatment, which makes it look real sharp, but added about $2200 to the price when I bought it and is not taken into account on trade in. Dealer told me to wait until spring when they should loosen up a bit and might be able to give me a better deal. Supply and demand I guess.
If I wait till spring I may not want one so bad, I do love my 04 TL, it has Nav too, but I want the SHAWD and some of the other new toys my TL doesent have.
BTW Acura Nav systems just spoils you for most if not all the others as it is the most advanced and detalied, not to mention extremely easy to use. I had an 01 MDX with nav and loved it.
One thing I do agree with the auto spies on is, while I like the look of th 05 RL a lot I think the 04-05 TL looks sharper, especially witht he body kit like I have.
Happy New Year to ALL
#5510 of 7386 Re: OUCH... [markcincinnati]
Jan 01, 2005 (10:01 am)
My first reaction (after seeing the sight for the first time) was a bit harsh. It wasn't the cheesiest site I have ever seen. I was P.Oed!! I seriously question their credibility however and for them to select a Honda product and an Acura product (1st and 2nd) as the "MOST DISAPPOINTING CARS WE SAW THIS YEAR" while they show a Mercedes Benz banner ad on the top of the page. Well you be the judge.
Also they were not fawning over ANY car...QUITE THE CONTRARY!
AND...Their assessment of the RL ended with.."The only redeeming feature? The dash/console design and the best nav system on earth. Keep those, scrap the rest and start over. BMW, MB, Lexus and Infiniti are laughing in their halls!" was laughable to me!....AND A CROCK!
#5513 of 7386 The RL in the snow
Jan 01, 2005 (11:30 pm)
Just got back from a week at Mammoth Mountain where we received over 7 feet of snow. The RL did great on roads that had over 1-2 feet of snow on top of thick ice. That includes very steep roads accessing the ski hill's parking lots.
In addition, there was snow on the highway for about 20 miles travelling out of the ski area (several cars were stranded off the road) and the RL kept hugging the road even at speeds of 35-40 mph.
This is by far the best snow sedan that I have ever driven.
#5514 of 7386 Re: The RL in the snow [somno]
Jan 02, 2005 (4:02 am)
Thanks for the feedback. Do you have snow tires? Did you notice the dashboard AWD graphic working hard? How did the ABS feel when stoping?
#5515 of 7386 3500 Mile Trip Report
Jan 02, 2005 (9:11 am)
Now folks for some car comments:
Just returned from 3500 miles. Chicago to Orlando and back. The flatlands and mountains. Car performed wonderfully. MPG was 24 to 27. Gas prices 1.81 to 2.25. Oil life usage about 12.5% per 1000 miles. One ticket, 82 in a 65 zone.
XM radio was great - listened to it about 90% of the time. No reception issues, even in mountains. Does not work well in tunnels but neither does navagation.
Used navagation extensively. It never faltered and got me back on track when I took a wrong turn here and there.
Trunk space is wonderful, saved me bundel from those outlet malls on I-95, the wife could just not buy as much as usual.
On the road about 8-11 hours a day with freqiuent coffee stops. No issues with comfort. The dual a/c controls etc worked well.
Handsfree phone worked without flaw when signal was available. I use a sony/erickson phone with gsm technology and that is not as wide spread as the older signal type. Did get stuck outside of Savannah on night on I-95 and called hotel that I would be late. Had trouble with my cell signal but switched off to On-Star and no problem. I never thought I would have need for 2 phones in car but this time it helped. For the cost of 100 minutes, about $30 I would recommend getting an on--star number for longer over the road trips. The transmitter in-car is 3 watts (I think) where a normal cell is about 1/10 watt. Big difference when you really need to call.
I did buy a back seat cover - the type folks use for the dog and that worked well - put my cooler right on it and we had pop and sandwiches all the way.
All in all a great trip in a great car - even the NC highway patrol liked it!!!!
Good Driving everyone.!!!!
Jan 02, 2005 (10:49 am)
Where in Chicago did you get your RL? Satisfied?
#5517 of 7386 Re: 3500 Mile Trip Report [bobb1]
Jan 02, 2005 (11:49 am)
Nice Post...I really enjoyed reading it...and for a change...we are back to positive feedback. Good driving to you too!
#5518 of 7386 Re: The RL in the snow [00boxsters]
Jan 02, 2005 (1:47 pm)
I just have the stock tires supplied on the car. I was worried that they would not be good enough (according to the Tire Rack review) but they did very well.
I did not let the ABS kick in too often as I generally went very slow when driving downhill and approaching stop signs or traffic lights (the roads were extremely icy and serious FWD trucks with serious snow tires were sliding all over the place).
The few times the ABS kicked in, the results were quite good with the car coming to a stop and staying mostly in a straight line. You can really feel the brakes pumping (fairly harshly) when the ABS activates, but they do their job well.
I did get a few chances to look at the AWD graphs and could see the different wheels getting different use, but it is hard to watch as you are driving in blizzard.