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Acura RL, Sedan
#4507 of 7386 I'm Loyal!!!
Oct 28, 2004 (10:11 pm)
So where's my loyalty bonus Acura???? In the fall of 1984 I went to Toyota to buy my first new car. The salesman (brother to my best friend at the time) refused to remove his $500 markup on a stripped Tercel that I could barely afford. Next day I went to Honda. Got myself an Accord hatchback at a great price because the salesman took pity on my financial situation.
Eight years later I purchased a 1993 Accord. Then a 1997 Acura CL. Next up was a 1999 TL. I now have a 2002 RL. My next car will be another RL but probably a 2006 (I want me those air cooled seats that Acura will have to eventually offer).
So again, Acura/Honda, where's my loyalty bonus????
#4508 of 7386 Sorry Toyota
Oct 28, 2004 (10:17 pm)
By the way, if it wasn't for that $500 markup I'd probably be driving a Lexus today. But alas, that bad experience turned me off on Toyotas for life.
Do you think dealers ever consider such issues or is it "make money now" d*** the consequences?
#4509 of 7386 making the $$$$ now
Oct 28, 2004 (11:51 pm)
It's part of the "bird in the hand" theory and a bit short-sighted. The secret is developing clients, not just making a sale.
As far as "loyalty bonuses" go, you have to get in line behind me: 1986 Legend; 1987 Integra LS; 1987 Legend L coupe (2); 1988 Integra LS; 1991 Legend LS; 1993 Integra LS Special Edition; 1996 RL; 2001 Honda Odyssey EX; 2002 Honda Accord EX-L V6; 2003 RSX.
With all the referrals from me (over 100), they should give me a free 2005 RL!
#4510 of 7386 Re: Acura RL vs. Audi A6 - Same Price- hard to get [bodble2]
Oct 29, 2004 (2:37 am)
Bodble2 is perceptive, sharp -- and absolutely correct; the left foot is not used for the brake (or shouldn't be). I suspect I became confused because our second auto has standard transmission. Please forgive my mindlessness...and let's hope that my left foot will remain at rest in the '05RL. Thanks Bodble2 for the heads up!
#4511 of 7386 Re: BMW 5-series vs. RL [manybmws]
Oct 29, 2004 (3:55 am)
As a BMW 530 driver for the last 3 years, and 2 other 5 series before that, I felt exactly the same on all these points.
RL has more technology choices so new cockpit is a lot "busier" than last generation 5 series.
Interior sound is less in BMW.
#4512 of 7386 Enough room for the LEFT foot :-) [larry6]
Oct 29, 2004 (5:09 am)
I suspect there may be a few of us out there that drove straight stick for years and may even carry forward the tendency to cheat, and use the left foot on the brake once in a while. I do. and usually its in a situation making one of those "California" stops as we called them or "rabbit' stops and you want to move quickly through an intersection that is clear.
#4513 of 7386 Acceptance of RL...the superior vehicle!
Oct 29, 2004 (5:25 am)
Very inciteful Shotgun.
#4514 of 7386 Re: Acura RL vs. Audi A6 - Same Price- hard to get [larry6]
Oct 29, 2004 (6:40 am)
Frustrating: Audi dealer is owned by several brothers -- they own geographically separate Acura, Audi, Cadillac, Chevrolet and Toyota stores.
I test drove an Acura TL -- and got to look at but not keep an RL brochure (reason: salesperson only had one). No RL's to test, all presold. I get in a leftover last gen (but new) RL. I decide I like the TL a lot (but didn't care for the torque steer); but the TL's sound system is the best I have ever heard in any car, period.
I test drove an A6 4.2 -- but as much as I liked it, it was $56K and I am really only interested in a 3.2; I did get a brochure to take with me however (woo woo!). I asked about a 3.2 test drive -- they have 1, presold 3.2, about 6 4.2's, 5 of them presold. I'll wait to test the 3.2.
Note: I ask my sales rep (at Audi) are these cars selling at MSRP, less or more. I've known this guy for 20 years -- he says, "we've been taking off $1,200 on the presold ones (4.2's that HE knew of), so far." He didn't know about the 3.2, since the car had been presold by another sales person.
Note2: The Acura rep said MSRP, period (I though, well at least there was no MARK-UP!)
Drove to Chrysler dealer -- asked for 300C brochure with AWD version described, no brochure period on this model was available. Gave sales manager my card and asked to be called when there was a 300C w/AWD that I could test drive. He claimed 11/15/2004 (was that production or availability? I don't think he really knew so he said it both ways once each).
Conclusion: frustration at the process, but "patience is a virtue."
Conclusion2: not knowing anything other than what I have read about SH-AWD, it would seem that the Acura TL w/SH-AWD would be sold at a pace equal to or greater than its production -- what a great car, and a great sound system (yea, I know I already said that).
The A6 4.2 had 18" wheels with Ultra High perfomance seasonal tires -- the XM radio was slightly less good than the Acura, but the power and responsiveness of the car belied its size.
Can't wait to try these three cars back to back to back (the Hemi engine may be sweet, but power alone will not seduce me).
Oh, post script: A6 dealer rep, said "money factor is 'artificially high' right now, I would expect it to decrease in November or December."
He who goes first, apparently, pays the most.
I wonder if Acura and Audi will begin some "normal" discounts first quarter 2005?
The current 300C, BTW, is now being "normally" discounted plus $1,000 off from Chryco.
#4515 of 7386 Re: Acceptance of RL...the superior vehicle! [jjacura]
Oct 29, 2004 (6:59 am)
Yeh...I know. Please forgive me, I just couldn't help myself.
#4516 of 7386 Re: Acura RL vs. Audi A6 - Same Price- hard to get [markcincinnati]
by kyfdx@Edmunds HOST
Oct 29, 2004 (7:18 am)
I know you have been dealing with them for years.. but, I just haven't had much luck dealing with the Joseph dealerships.. While the Acura guys are pleasant enough, frustration would define my interactions with every one of their dealerships...
On another note.. how is the new Audi dealership? I haven't been by there since they opened.