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Oct 17, 2004 (2:22 pm)
Very interesting posts from those that have actually driven the new RL. I was fortunate enough to test drive one yesterday in Scarsdale, NY. Before I go into my review, I will say what surprised me most was the fact that they actually had on or two on the lot that weren't spoken for, and several more arriving in the next few weeks to month (this as opposed to several other dealers I spoke to who said I wouldn't be able to get one until February or March).
I currently drive a 99 TL which I have really been happy with. I have driven on several occassions a 2004 TL, as well as 2002 Type-S flavor. The RL is very much a different drive, though I wouldn't say "completely" or "amazingly better"; but definitely better. Power is very good, though if you're comparing it to a V8 (BMW 540i, Audi A6 4.2, etc.) you might not be as satisfied. But to me, the RL not only is fine in the power department, but smoother, and quicker, than the current TL and the 2005 BMW 530i I tested two hours earlier.
The handling was precise and braking was excellent (if you've ever driven on Central Park Ave on a Saturday evening, you'll know how much braking you do). Taking the car off the main drag and on to some side streets allowed me to get a better feel for the car's ability take corners; at first I didn't push it, but at the urging of the sales guy sitting next to me, I pushed into corners with greater speed - the car stuck to the road and I came out of each corner with a big grin on my face. It is cool to watch the real-time display of the power distribution to the front to rear wheels as you gun it (of course, don't look at it as you're taking that corner at high speed). How did it feel compared to the BMW 5 I tested earlier? The BMW certainly can hold its own in any cornering test, but what really surprised me about the BMW was not its handling, but the power - even before I test drove the RL I felt the BMW was under powered (keep in mind, this was the 6 and not 8 cylinder model). Of course, I'm not saying the BMW is any slouch, but I remember thinking during the test drive, "this is the ultimate driving machine?"...
Interior-wise the RL is a sight to be seen. Now, I work with technology/computers for a living, so I was in heaven as soon as I sat down and saw all the gadgets! Others might be intimidated or put off by the technology, but I found all the buttons and menus pretty much right where I naturally first looked or reached for them. Compared to the BMW's iDrive... heck, I can't even think of an analogy... I'll just say, for an engineer who has designed these kinds of systems (both hardware and software) for over ten years, I was even frustrated with BMW's iDrive. The RL interface was much easier to use. Granted, there's probably at least 8 times the features that my current car offers, so it will take some time getting used to everything. And I'll have to get used to not being able to use the touch screen to enter in an address, but I suspect the voice recognition will help out a great deal here. I strongly believe the Acura engineers did their homework (i.e. human factors engineering, surveys, usability, etc.) in designing the dashboard layout and the computer system interface. The seats felt wonderful and for me, I immediately felt "right at home" in the car, which I think is very important when spending this kind of money.
So bottom line was that I put down a $250 deposit with the promise that they would do their best to get me the car in my color choice in the next two to three weeks. But from what they showed me of their inventory, they do have quite a few RLs coming in the next few weeks, which according to my sales guy, haven't been sold yet. I saw a lot of Silver with ebony interiors, which I'm not interested in. The car they had on the lot which I could have bought that day, which I test drove, was white with ebony interior. Wouldn't suprise me if it was sold after I got out from my test drive - so many people looking to test drive that car.
Oh, and if you're looking for RL brochures, don't even ask. I think Acura does the same thing with their brochures as their cars -- only releases a few to ensure peak demand. Every dealer I went to said they had none; all given out. I think dealers should keep a few in reserve for those who actually do put down a deposit and intend to buy a car, rather than just giving one out to anyone who just walks in and says "just give me a couple of them", cuz you know they're gonna end up on eBay
Oct 17, 2004 (3:09 pm)
I saw the Lake Shore Silver, nice color, but I'm still waiting to see the Celestial Silver. Has anyone seen it in person? How different is it from Satin Silver of the TL?
I think the Black should be offered with Taupe interior too; it would be a nice combination!
Oct 17, 2004 (3:44 pm)
I am considering an Acura RL vs the new Audi A6. The lease payments on the new A6 are considerably better than the RL. Could be because of the money factor or residuals.
Lease on the A6 with 2,500 down, 18K miles, 39 mos was $854 per month, money factor .0220. Lease on the RL with $2,500 down, 15K miles was $890 per month. I think the money factor was .0245.
I'd rather get the RL. Better dash, electronics, reliability. However, the A6 has a more back seat legroom and a huge trunk. I personally never go 0-60 in 6 or seconds so performance in either car is less important to me.
Anyone else have any experience with leasing the new RL?
#4221 of 7386 Re: RL Pricing [boston1]
Oct 17, 2004 (3:46 pm)
What was the quoted price on the A6?
Oct 17, 2004 (4:44 pm)
An Introduction: I presently own a 2000 Mercedes E320 AWD. This is my second E320. The first was a 1997/rear wheel drive. My present Mercedes has 52,000 miles on it and the repairs have already started. Axle- $2,000. Numerous sensors - another $1,000. We got Mercedes to pay for the axle and the parts on the sensors. Now the car is literally sucking oil and that is a repair that Mercedes will also pay for- it is a known problem and they pay for fixing it if it happens to your car!!
I am tired of the over-priced Mercedes-Benz cars. I owned a 1993 Acura Legend and it was a great car. My son owned a 1994 Acura Integra, had it for 9 years and repairs were few and far between.
Also, Mercedes is no longer paying for scheduled maintenance starting with the 2005 year models. I live in the Northern part of the country, so want AWD. That left out the BMW 5 series, so I looked at the new Audi A6. I can't justify the extra money for that car. Also the new A6 doesn't have any kind of Onstar or Tele-aid service. The sales rep gave me some goofy story about the fact that you couldn't have Bluetooth compatibility and Onstar or Tele-aid on a car.
So, I have put down a deposit on the RL. Drove one last Friday and it is a beautiful car. I wish the exterior was a little more distinctive, but then I don't consider the styling of the BMW or Audi A6 or Mercedes E320 very distinctive either. The leather in the RL is much nicer than the standard leather on the E320. The technology is incredible. I do wish that Acura had put some wood on the shift console portion of their car. It would have looked much richer, in my opinion.
This seems to me to be an incredible car for the price!
#4223 of 7386 Re: RL Pricing [robertsmx]
Oct 17, 2004 (4:53 pm)
The quoted price was MSRP of $48,920 which includes destination. Almost identical to the RL.
#4224 of 7386 Re: [adam_kelley]
Oct 17, 2004 (5:36 pm)
Very helpful review....I also live in Westchester County and was wondering if Curry Acura was the dealership you went to. If so, are you going to pay MSRP or more. In August when I spoke to a salesman at that dealership, he told me that he would not guarantee the sale price would be MSRP.
#4225 of 7386 Re: Accord derivative? [cathyturner]
Oct 17, 2004 (6:05 pm)
>>Though it handles well i did not think it had any much power at all.
I just don't get the comments on here about not enough power. Are you planning to race it?? As I said in a previous post, I haven't maxed it out, but for entering freeways, passing, etc., it has more than enough power.
BTW, was driving it this morning and discovered a cool feature. It was not possible for the driver to safely program an address on the navi on my 99 RL. I decided to program a couple of addresses this morning while stopped at various stoplights along the way. I quickly discovered that you can safely program an address while driving - a voice reads you all the options and reads your choices as you rotate the joy stick, which you can then select without ever looking at the screen. Really cool since I quite often drive alone.
#4226 of 7386 Re: 2005 RL [lynnminny]
Oct 17, 2004 (7:01 pm)
I think that the 18 inch wheels look much better than the standard wheels. While they are expensive, it's a good way to make it look more distincitve, especially from the side profile (where it's needed the most.)
#4227 of 7386 Re: Cda-US Comparisons [brew99]
Oct 17, 2004 (11:26 pm)
Where did you get the Canadian pricing and equipment details? I can't find anything useful on the Acura Canada website - the downloaded brochure has hardly any details.
Do you know when the first RLs will be available for sale in Canada?