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You are in the Acura RL
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Acura RL, Sedan
#4039 of 7386 Re: $54K for a Lexus ....... [ceric]
Oct 07, 2004 (5:59 pm)
"I'm talking about a 2004"
Yes, this was in May for a 2004 that they would get in the color combo I wanted via dealer trade (so, not demo, unpopular color, etc.). I didn't do the deal because I just wasn't sure I wanted a LS430 with RWD in Michigan. We've had RWD and AWD vehicles and the next car we get will have AWD.
The Grand Rapids Acura dealer has presold the first 7 RL's they will get and has started a "waiting list".
#4040 of 7386 '05 RL vs. '04 LS430 ........
Oct 07, 2004 (7:51 pm)
Well, we don't have the kind of weather that will make the RWD vs. AWD discussion that critical. But, it would sure feel great to be driving the AWD-equipped RL - nothing like being up-to-date as far as technology goes. I'd definitely pick the '05 RL over the '04 LS430.
That Grand Rapids dealer will deservedly make a lot of "coin" on those pre-sold RLs. The way I see it, the RL is a hell of a lot of car for $50K. There's a lot of "balance" in the make-up of the car. Honda has been known for that all these years. They don't always have the huskiest-sounding engine, the most HP, the quietest interior, the best MPG, handling and riding dynamics, etc., but seem to be near the top in all categories. Throw in the inoffensive though non-inspired (to some) styling and you've got a winning combination
#4041 of 7386 Opulent Blue Pearl
Oct 07, 2004 (8:04 pm)
Yes, I'm still suffering from a color conundrum! I talked to a dealer in Georgia who said that the Opulent Blue Pearl was a "gorgeous" color - almost black in appearance. Have any of you guys seen it? Your thoughts?
#4042 of 7386 my 2 cents
Oct 07, 2004 (8:24 pm)
I'll be honest, i'm not a honda/acura fan. I do envy the quality, craftmenship that go into these cars, but i despise their lack value for the price or extra price for name tag philosophy.
But this is a serious car the RL. My friends dad ordered it and i got to ride in it on a test drive at the dealers, and i was truly amazed. With the TL theres this little stuggle off the line, and you just know this. But this car with its revolutionary AWD, this aint a problem no more. I think basically this AWD put this car and future Acura cars on the map.
This car is twice the interior, refinement, gadetary, design the TL is, and the TL already is very good at those department, with some speaking that its overall a notch better compared to the likes of BMW 3 series or Audi A4. So with this i believe this car the RL will have orders more than they are capable of making them.
This car is relatively cheaper than the 330i and 5 series, but the best part is, its somewhere in between it.
I thought all along acura would finally build all their sedans RWD(like s2000), but they went beyond with this AWD add on.
#4043 of 7386 Re: markcincinnati, from way back [carnutcpa]
Oct 07, 2004 (11:03 pm)
>I don't know about you, but I don't make anywhere NEAR that type of return on any of my investments--and I don't intend to help anyone else achieve it, either!<
A very adroit analysis, the conclusion of which echoes my sentiments exactly.
Having said that, it may be that the new RL will command full MSRP for many months to come.
I will be eager to hear car buyer's reactions when the car goes on sale NEXT WEEK!
#4044 of 7386 Re: markcincinnati, from way back [markcincinnati]
Oct 07, 2004 (11:14 pm)
>Cars (and houses) seem to be almost the universal "thing" that we disdain paying MSRP for.<
That's true Mark. In fact, one gets bragging rights in some circles if you got a healthy discount on your car. On the other hand, here in the California housing market some are paying over asking price in order to seal the deal.
>Even though I know it works, I usually don't haggle when I buy a pair of pants -- but just for fun I do haggle once in a while. <
That's the point. It is fun. Anyone who's been to a garage sale or a flea market knows that's half the fun of going ... gettting that bargain.
There are merchants around the world who fully expect to haggle ... and don't hold it against you. As long as there's something in it for them, most will bargain with you with a wry smile on their face.
I have found that car dealers usually will bargain when it serves them to do so -- clearly supply, demand, sales goals and timing have a lot to do with it.
As I said in the previous post, MSRP may be the price of the new RL for a while, or a long while. But I will still test the waters. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
#4045 of 7386 Disappointed about Acura now..
Oct 08, 2004 (12:04 am)
Just browsed through JDM Legend info and found many options that are available on Legends that are not on RLs.
- backview camera (dealer-installed in Japan)
- lane keeping
- night vision
- laser cruise control
I dislike the fact that Japanese always keep the best in JDM and let US have the 2nd rated cars.
#4046 of 7386 Re: Disappointed about Acura now.. [ceric]
Oct 08, 2004 (5:09 am)
Backview camera is available in MDX for two(?) years, so it shouldn't have been a big deal in the RL. Perhaps it will be added as an MMC as could couple of other things (Intelligent Cruise Control and CMS).
As for night vision and LKAS, they could potentially push the price quite a bit.
#4047 of 7386 Re: markcincinnati, from way back ... Carnutcpa ..
Oct 08, 2004 (7:48 am)
...... That must be some math course your taking, except they forgot a few Itsy Bitsy items .. the cost of "doing and staying" in business.
Small stuff like workmans comp, the lights, the heat and air, property taxes, parts inventory, payroll taxes, office staff, gas, water, security, service building, employee benefits, salaries, commissions, liability insurance, floorplan, advertising, property maintenance, inventory control, service costs and lets not forget the price of the property and the mortgage payment, etc etc.com .. most dealers are trying to survive on a 3/7% net net profit ~ 41/410% ..? .. maybe on Saturn, tell me when the next flight leaves ..l.o.l....
Most import stores are not high volume stores .. so they survive on what they have, being a Ford/Chevy dealer and selling 400/450 units is a big difference than the average Acura store that sells 90/110 vehicles a month - new and used .............
#4048 of 7386 Re: Disappointed about Acura now.. [robertsmx]
Oct 08, 2004 (8:01 am)
....... The back-up beep beep should have been made standard on the RL's, they been standard for years on the big SUV's and a superb feature .....