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#3729 of 7386 Re: Purchasing an RL [acurafan1]
Sep 16, 2004 (10:14 pm)
Before you give up on a new (2004) RL, why not get on your computer and look up some other Acura dealerships in surrounding states, and check their inventory? I don't know the geographical lay of the land there but perhaps you are close enough for a half day drive in a direction of a state that would have a car. You can negotiate over the phone, then go and pick up the car, or even arrange to have it delivered (I would opt for the former). I certainly would not be concerned about buying the car in New York, for example, then getting it serviced in New Jersey. Despite what some of the salesman tell you, all dealerships are more than happy to have your service department dollars!
If driving to another state, or a distant spot within your state does not appeal to you, and you are willing to pay a premium, you could go to your local Acura dealer and ask them to do a "dealer trade", where they search for, locate, then buy the car from another dealer that has one and then they in turn sell it to you -- obviously at a somewhat greater cost.
As for used models, my generic advice would be to get a 2003 if possible. I believe that the navigation systems were refined in each successive year, so if navi is an important feature for you, a later model car may be the better choice. On the other hand, a two year old model coming off of a lease ought to be in nice shape, with low miles while still in warranty.
The 2004 and 2003 models were both generally excellent cars, terrific values then and now. I would bargain hard however on a used model, given that now in 2005 there has been a quantum leap forward in both body style and technology; thus the older RLs will likely command less in resale now and especially down the road a few years.
#3730 of 7386 Re: Rl Tires [nate]
Sep 16, 2004 (10:33 pm)
>Does any one know what type or brand of all season tires the RL come with?<
I believe that Acura and Honda have been putting Michelin's on their full size cars for a good ten years. Honda Motor Company trusts Michelin, and with good reason. I suppose that there may have been a few exceptions on past occasions, but I would be very surprised if this new RL did not come down off the truck wearing Michelin's.
If I am wrong on the Michelin's than I think they would be Dunlop's. I could not envision Acura using Goodyear, Pirreli or even Bridgestone's on this car. Obviously Firestone ain't in the running -- now or any time soon -- on this car or any car with a reputation at stake. And I venture to say that they aren't going to go with exotic Japanese or Korean tires either.
Other viewpoints, gentlemen?
#3731 of 7386 Re: 2005 RL in Westchester NY - Stick Shift v. Automatic [timetobuy]
Sep 17, 2004 (2:46 am)
>I make heavy use of manual shifting to gain more control. I like a stickÖ itís fun, so does my wife, but after forty-years I may be ready for an automatic.<
Yeah, I used to like a stick, but after years of commuting to work in the snow of the midwest and later the congested freeways of California, once I got an automatic I never looked back. Besides, with all the other distractions, including cell phones, it's good to have use of your right hand.
Not to split hairs, but I wonder aloud what constitutes better "control" of the car. Other than downshifting while on curves or approaching a stop light, I don't see how a stick driver would have materially more control when driving. If you think about it, with all the herking and jerking that goes on as one goes up or down through the gears, I think that if one could look closely enough, you'd see variations in steering direction during some up-shifts or down-shifts. (Yeah, I know some of you guys will say that your shifting is smooth as silk, but I think under close up, slow motion photography, one would see that the path the car takes during shifting is not a perfect straight line; and in any event not as straight as would come with an automatic.) Your left arm has to steer, your left leg has to clutch, your right leg has to press down or come up off the gas pedal -- or brake pedal -- and you must of course shift with your right hand. Your entire body is having to manage all these functions in perfect time, meanwhile you have to look out the windshield and manage traffic intervals, stop lights, pedestrians and other obstacles.
Today's commercial and fighter pilots are being relieved of having to "fly the plane" by automated systems that free the pilot to concentrate on other matters. I would submit that by driving the automatic, you would be able to put more brain power into all the demands that modern day driving requires. The new SH-AWD will give drivers an unprecedented level of control, allowing the driver to focus on the road, getting the most out of the car; all without a manual shift.
#3732 of 7386 Re: Rl Tires [legendman]
Sep 17, 2004 (7:17 am)
The s2000's rolled with pirelli's for a while, don't know if they still do.
#3733 of 7386 Re: 2005 RL in Westchester NY - Stick Shift v. Automatic [legendman]
Sep 17, 2004 (7:19 am)
however much i love to row stick on my own, at this point in evolution, its becoming immaterial.
on another note, honda automatics downshift when you brake, i know they started doing that sometime in the early 90s with their automatics.
Sep 17, 2004 (7:43 am)
Not to be contrary, but I find that driving my wife's TL (auto) allows my brain to wander. Most often it finds things other than driving for its subject matter. Meanwhile, driving my manual forces me to keep in sync with the process of driving.
#3735 of 7386 Accord hybrid
Sep 17, 2004 (10:41 am)
Ok so the specs for the V6-VCM-Hybrid Accord is announced and its hitting the market at the start of December.
I am putting $10 bet that this will make it to the RL in its mid-cycle freshening
3.5 V6-VCM with 350 HP & 300 Lb/ft, fuel economy of 27 city, 34 highway for MY2007?
#3736 of 7386 Re: Accord hybrid [ksoman]
Sep 17, 2004 (10:55 am)
I wouldn’t bet against you.
#3737 of 7386 Re: Purchasing an RL [legendman]
Sep 17, 2004 (11:12 am)
Legendman, thanks for your sound advice. Earlier today I located a dealer 50 miles away with an '04 RL (nighthawk black pearl/parchment) willing to heavily discount the price. Tomorrow I go to close the deal. I think I'll keep my '93 Legend because I view it as worth more than a trade would bring. Again, thanks for your help.
#3738 of 7386 Re: Purchasing an RL [acurafan1]
Sep 17, 2004 (11:19 am)
The value of keeping that 93 and running it till it passes to its heavenly abode one fine day is incomparable... hold on to it.