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#3595 of 7386 Re: [nebraskaguy] Canadian pricing vs. US [gnarly] [canadacraig]
Sep 08, 2004 (1:05 pm)
I posted here a while ago when I first saw the RL Canadian pricing on the Canadiandriver wedsite. At C$69,500 (which works out to about US$53,500), the RL is approaching the likes of Lexus GS430 and Infiniti M45, both of which have V8 engines. I currently own a 2001 3.2CL Type S and was looking to move up to the new RL. However, at C$69,500, I am very tempted to consider the new GS or M45. Another vehicle in consideration is the Infiniti FX45 which also has AWD and loaded, it costs around C$67,000. I am not sure where Acura wants to position the RL but I always thought the Acura brand stands for outstanding cars at great value. That's why I bought the CL when it first came in in April 2000. I was hoping the same may apply to the new RL but I am not so sure.
#3596 of 7386 Re: Hmmm [ksoman]
Sep 08, 2004 (1:18 pm)
It could be that Acura is making really great cars. The RL is exceptional in many ways - even if you're looking for things to hate it still comes off as an excellent car. It's fine to be critical but part of that is knowing when something simply deserves praise.
#3597 of 7386 Re: [nebraskaguy] Canadian pricing vs. US [gnarly] [canadacraig] [micartie]
Sep 08, 2004 (1:19 pm)
In price comparisons, donít forget features. Otherwise, at $40K, the current GS300 sounds like a steal compared to a BMW 530i at $56K. That is, until you realize what you get for the money, starting with cloth interior and halogen lamp. 2004 Lexus GS with all the frills approaches $46K. Add $2K for AWD, and there you go! A GS300/AWD w/NAV would cost as much as GS430. To most buyers, V8 isnít a must have, and they seek the six banger.
The current Lexus GS430 starts at CDN$ 69.5K in Canada (USD 48K) but besides 4.3/V8, do you get the stuff that RL comes with? AWD isnít an option, audio system upgrade and navigation (available?) would increase the price too. These are standard features in RL.
Comparably loaded (premium audio, AWD, Navigation system), the new Lexus GS300 and Infiniti M35 would likely cost about the same. Ultimately, it is the rest of the characteristics of the car that will help a buyer decide. Even there, I suspect, the RL will ride better than M35 but not as softly as GS300.
#3598 of 7386 Re: Acura RL article here on edmunds.com [markcincinnati]
Sep 08, 2004 (1:28 pm)
The cursory mention of such competitor as BMW, Audi and Mercedes Benz was not intended as a comparison test, only an expression of amazement that the RL (or any Acura really) could hold its own against the traditionally sportier European brands - something that would have been inconceivable just four years ago.
#3599 of 7386 Re: [markcincinnati]
Sep 08, 2004 (1:37 pm)
Since the list price for my 99 RL was about $44,000, with navi, a $48,000 list price for the 05 seems pretty reasonable. Considering inflation and all the extra goodies on the 05, especially.
#3600 of 7386 Re: [nebraskaguy]
Sep 08, 2004 (2:05 pm)
True, but dealers used to sell 99-04 RL significantly below MSRP, sometimes as much as $5K off. It will be interesting to see what kind of street pricing we will see on the new RL...
#3601 of 7386 Re: [carshark]
Sep 08, 2004 (3:10 pm)
Past experience in this market on pricing is all about supply and demand. My hunch is that the new RL sales will "take off" and you won't see discounts until the market slows.
#3602 of 7386 Re: [jjacura]
Sep 08, 2004 (6:39 pm)
"...My hunch is that the new RL sales will "take off" and you won't see discounts until the market slows..." Agreed! Based on the preliminary press, I believe demand will be "hot" - especially from previous RL owners (like myself) followed by others who will be unable to resist the price/performance/value factor offered by this new "superstar" automobile!
Sep 08, 2004 (7:15 pm)
A decade-and-a-half ago, one of the car mags ran a comparison between four personal coupes: Acura Legend LS, Mercedes Benz, BMW 6-series, and Lincoln. As I recall, the BMW tied the Acura, but only because the editors added a new category, CACHET, which the Acura and Lincoln fell short in.
Regardless of how good the 2005 RL may prove to be, there will always be those who will criticize the lack of a V-8, "soul" (whatever that is ..... CACHET?), and other factors which may not be quantifiable. We even see comments here about the color offerings.
And, no matter what the price is, especially in comparison with the other marquees, there will be MANY who will still regard it as TOO HIGH!
The fact is that some people are just plain CHEAP and wouldn't recognize a great value even if it bit them in the rear. Others are just barking and will never buy an RL, or any of the other higher-priced competitors.
#3604 of 7386 Re: [nebraskaguy]
Sep 08, 2004 (9:47 pm)
That small increase in price is quite reasonable, and if this car stays true to form, then I'll strongly consider one.
I'm torn between an SUV and the new M45 from infiniti. Honda has a strong reputation for quality and I know this new RL will be a great car, but the styling is to safe, and this car looks far far to much like an Accord, heck it doesn't even look all that much bigger then an Accord. This would be a great design for the next generation Accord, but for Acura's Flagship? I question Honda's safe design of this vehicle, especially when the new TL was so greatly done. If honda wants this puppy to revive the days they saw with the popular Legend then they're in for a rude awakining.I've no doubt that the new RL will chip away at the sales of its competitors, but in the end their is nothing head turning about the exterior design. Honda did a safe job, but I'm confident that the new RL won't be a massive hit, especially along the lines of the FX and G series from infiniti.