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#3274 of 7386 Response to "I am torn!" --message #1825
Aug 02, 2004 (3:30 pm)
I leased my first Acura RL in 1997 and fell in love with it immediately! I always drove GM cars until that time--I am now happily married to Acura. When my lease expired, I leased a 2002 RL. My current lease expires at the end of this month and I am seriously considering purchasing it for the residual value of slightly over $22,000, as the car has less than 34,000 miles. However, I may extend my lease until October and then make a decision if I want to consider the 2005 RL.
I am very disappointed at the pictures of the 2005 RL which will arrive at the dealer showrooms sometime in October. I think it looks like an updated more aerodynamic version of the current RL. It looked liked an RL the moment I saw the first picture. Like you, I expected something very new and different, but perhaps slightly more conservative. The rear view looks more like the Honda Accord than my present RL, which could pass for a Mercedes or Lexus LS430. I don't like the look of the center of the dashboard which is a garish silver color. I think it cheapens the RL. I suspect that the 2005 RL will list for $48-50,000.
If you have been happy with your 1996 RL, think twice before moving up to the 2005 RL which obviously will have a lot of new features compared to your present RL, especially some great safety features and 4-wheel drive. Based on what you said, I have to be crazy to lease another RL right now considering the low mileage on my 2002RL and the fact that I love it. I am like a happy kid every time I drive it!!!!! So why spend all of the additional money to get the 2005 RL right now. Moreover, when the 2005 first comes out I am sure that we will pay top buck for it whether we purchase or lease it. Therefore, it pays to wait awhile. The best time to buy a car is in the early winter months when sales are usually slower or at the end of the season if you don't mind a car one year old.
Good luck with your decision!
P.S. I drove a 2004 TL loaner today for the first time when I left my RL at the dealer for service. It was totally different from the RL (more power, tighter steering, less smooth ride, bigger feeling car). I doubt that I could ever move down to the TL--it's not my kind of car. However, it is a great looking car and probably a car that appeals to someone who wants a more sporty car. Dollar for dollar it is one of the best car values on the road today, and I believe that it is a top seller.
Aug 02, 2004 (5:13 pm)
I have heard nothing but accolades for the TL -- whether from magazine test drivers to real owners -- even my mechanic has one and loves it.
The TL is a terrific looking car, viewed from any angle. The rear end in particular is quite good looking, aerodynamic and muscular. If it were a bigger, roomier car, I would buy one in a heart beat.
It's hard to understand how Acura got it so right with the TL and wrong with the 2005 RL. My surmise is that when Acura set out to redesign the RL they had their German competition in mind, including the new Mercedes E class and the more expensive BMW 745iL. Thus, I think that once again they fell into the trap of me-tooism. On the other hand, I suspect that they felt that they had a lot of latitude with the TL and gave the designer(s) his/her head and they ran with it.
#3276 of 7386 TL vs RL # 2
Aug 02, 2004 (6:15 pm)
OK, my 2 cents: I have a 2002 TL-S that I am going to trade in this fall. I was going to get another TL as soon as the 2005's come out. I thought that that 3 years was just right and the '05 might have something more than the '04. Then I went to the NYAS in April to see the RL, GS and the M45. While all 3 cars looked good, I'm not a fan of the GS or the M45. Then I looked at the RL and I loved the front! Thought that the sides were OK and couldn't decide if I liked the back at all! The trunk was protruding like a new BMW. (Could not see the inside, the doors were closed and windows blacked out.) So, do I go for a smaller car that looks great, that would probably appeal to some one 45, or do I go for a more conservative, classy car? I'm 58, but I think that I'm still 37...,(wish I were...) I'm buying and can afford either car. PS- I just test drove a MB E-320 last week. Car drove great but almost every option was extra, really got me PO'ed. They don't even give full leather standard??? But the car did drive great and it does not look like an old mans car any more...
Oh well...decisions, decisions
#3277 of 7386 legendman, tls02
Aug 02, 2004 (10:24 pm)
I was hoping for a more agressive RL as well. While the previous TL was always a "great buy" it never impressed me in terms of any sense of style, inside or out. The new one is a knock out, the car that single handedly dragged Acura into the spotlight, as the TSX doesnt seem to be all that popular. Needs more hp, I think. The RL just seems to "big Honda" for me. I know that kind of statement is usually something one of the German boys would say, but thats how I feel about it. Also its interior ergonomics, what seems like a very funky control scheme, is questionable.
tls02, if your more interested in sport than rear seat legroom, I suggest you stick with the TL. The RL might have a 30hp advantage, but the size and weight will eat that right up. The TL A-spec can also rip through the cones at blinding speed, and the RL wont be able to match it. You'll notice that an S4 can out slalom an RS6, despite the larger car's MASSIVE power advantage. The new M might not be your cup of tea, but if you want AWD, which the TL doesnt offer, and more sport than the RL has, how does an '05 G35x grab you?
Aug 03, 2004 (12:33 pm)
My salesman just called me and gave me a list of the colors for the 2005 RL:
Premium Pearl White
Carbon Grey Pearl
Desert Mist (Champagne)
Opulent Pearl Blue
Lakeshore Silver Metallic
Most come with two choices of interior color.
#3279 of 7386 Re: Colors [nebraskaguy]
Aug 03, 2004 (1:52 pm)
those are really "blah" colors... i've never figured out why honda makes mostly cars in the gray scales... geez, give it some pizzaz!... atleast i see my world in a zillion colors...
#3280 of 7386 Re: legendman, tls02 [lexusguy]
Aug 03, 2004 (2:01 pm)
I have checked out the 04 G35. I will also check out the 05 G35X, (the AWD), but that car just did not hit me. I don't like the rear, and the rear lights. Also, the interior was very spartan, it seemed like there was an over use of plastic. I heard that the 05 G35's interior was improved, we'll see. BTW, as much as I am not a fan of the G35 Sedan, I think that the Coupe is a great looking car! I guess that I will have to test drive the RL before making any decisions. I already test drove a TL and thought that it handled great. PS- Lexusguy, my son is a Lexus fan, he's on his 2nd. He's really pushing me to get a GS330. I think that the looks were greatly improved over the current GS, but it still looks like a GS330.
Aug 03, 2004 (2:40 pm)
My wife only gets new rides. I used to only buy new but now, have no problem with going pre-owned. most cars today are very dependable and something 2-3 years old with excellent credentials is pretty appealing from a buyer's perspective. my '96 rl was bought in '99 with just < 16k miles and it looked totally new. sold it with 105k and it still looked darned new.
Ksso, of those new colors, I'd probably like the desert mist shade with the saddle interior.
#3282 of 7386 Re: Colors, Colors [ksoman]
Aug 03, 2004 (4:00 pm)
Looks like the 'usual suspects' once again, color wise. Unfortunately for Acura, they seem to have a problem coming up with interesting paint colors. That is one reason that I did not buy the '03 or '04 RLs. I never could find a good, handsome color. I think that the car only looked good in the Champagne -- which I am pretty sure they discontinued after '03 -- and the white, which was nice to look at but not a color that appealed to me on a sedan.
I have seen better colors on lower cost Acura's. There has been a desert brown color (for lack of knowing the real name) that was quite good looking on the RSX, or TSX, but inexplicably they have not brought that sophisticated color over to the RLs. Even the MDX has decent color choices.
Too bad they don't take a cue from BMW or to a lesser extent Mercedes. BMW has a full palette of sophisticated and nuanced metallic colors. With the exception of 1991's Vineyard Gray, I have yet to see an RL color that was not a rather stock and even stark interpretation of basic colors. Their Dark Grey, Dark Blue and especially the bright Silver were cases in point.
We will all have to wait and see the new colors on the car. The Champagne color seems sophisticated on the new '05, but given the front and rear outlines of the car (which I don't like) I was hoping to find a dark color that would deemphasize those features.
#3283 of 7386 Re: Colors, Colors [legendman]
Aug 03, 2004 (4:36 pm)
>>BMW has a full palette of sophisticated and nuanced metallic colors.
Yeah, I just love their puke yellow green color. Very sophisticated and nuanced.
As far as Acura colors, my 99 RL is a cranberry red that many people have commented on as one of the prettiest colors they've seen. My 90 Legend was a gold color that I thought was great. So many gold paint jobs come across as cheap looking or gaudy. Of the 2005 RL colors, the dark blue is the one that appeals to me the most. My only disappointment is, I was hoping for a dark green.