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Acura RL, Sedan
Jul 22, 2004 (9:28 am)
I'm surprised to see that people see so much resemblance between BMW 7-series (and 5-series? 6-series yes, but 5-series? C'mon) and not between Acura's own offerings from the past, a mix of Acura CL and TL (1996-98). I even see some resemblance in the rear to the outgoing RL! Thats evolutionary styling approach IMO.
Unlike 2004 TL which I would call aggressive, the new RL's styling approach is understated, and thats been something that top end cars usually have. Of course, not everybody prefers understated looks as it can be "boring", perhaps a reason BMW stylists went from the understated elegance of this car...
Hard to figure out what people would like... especially, "eventually".
Jul 22, 2004 (9:31 am)
Jeff, good question.
"I also love the little mouse in the center stack of the beemers. Back in 1990, I remember, I was struggling to use a mouse and i'm thinking, wow, maybe i'm not made to use such toys... today even 90 year old alzeimer's patients use mouse & windows successfully."
Right, so you're telling me that a 90 year old with alzeimers can figure out how to program a radio preset through iDrive? Sorry but thats just a plain bad design. You should not have to take a college course in "How to operate your BMW 101". Acura and Lexus have been showing them the proper way to do it for years and years, and the Germans just keep on ignoring them. :Frankenstein voice: Touch screen baaad! 800 confusing buttons or rediculous joystick control scheme goood!
Jul 22, 2004 (9:57 am)
I still can't understand why people think it looks like the new BMW. I mean, sure, the trunk being lifted off the fender is "similar", but the ugliest part of the BMW design is how high the trailing edge of the decklid rises. The Acura does not share that part.
IMHO, if you want to make comparisons, this is the car to look at...
Jul 22, 2004 (10:28 am)
>>Right, so you're telling me that a 90 year old with alzeimers can figure out how to program a radio preset through iDrive? Sorry but thats just a plain bad design. You should not have to take a college course in "How to operate your BMW 101".
Every time I read a review of how great BMW is, I have to laugh because invariably, in the middle of the review they'll talk about Idrive and the five steps to set a radio station, or the eight steps to do this, etc., etc. I don't care how great a car is otherwise, if I have to pull out an instruction manual just to figure out how to do the most basic things, I just won't buy it.
Jul 22, 2004 (10:31 am)
#3180 of 7386 Re: proe, legendman RX 300, et al [lexusguy]
Jul 22, 2004 (1:46 pm)
>>Legendman, cant recommend the RX highly enough. It's no drivers car, but most SUVs arent. However, its extremely comfortable, quiet, and luxurious. It has a great center storage compartment (the wife loved that) and ours has recently passed the 50K mark with a spotless record<<
I agree, it's a great car. My folks have two, one in the Midwest and one in the Southwest, and all they've ever needed were oil changes and some new tires for the older RX. They are quiet, comfortable, capable and as far as SUVs go, a pleasure to drive.
Nonetheless, my girlfriend seems to keep coming back to wanting a brand new car -- which would be her first. Her tastes are fairly simple -- we even drove a Mazda MPV -- which owners seem to love, btw.
I should say that my one nit with the Lexus RX 300 (and one that Edmunds.com editors/reviewers also impugned) was Lexus' incorporating what is now a navi screen with the car radio and HVAC controls. To paraphrase the Edmunds editors/reviewers, I hate it. It really takes your eyes off the road in order to manage either function.
If we do get back to see the RX: To buy a CPO RX (2000, 2001) at or under $30,000 OTD (the budget) we have been seeing cars in the 35,000 to 40,000 +/- mile range. Do you think that's too much mileage for a used car?
Jul 22, 2004 (3:20 pm)
Isnt the Mazda MPV like a 20 year old design with a mouse on a wheel for an engine? I cant even remember the last time I saw the MPV in a magazine article.
If she wants something new, I would suggest considering the Honda Pilot, which the press adores, or possibly a Murano for something a little different, and theres always Highlander.
"we have been seeing cars in the 35,000 to 40,000 +/- mile range. Do you think that's too much mileage for a used car?"
Depends on what car. If it were say an A6 Avant Quattro, yes. An RX, 40K miles is nothing. I would expect it to hold up to 200K miles or more. BTW, the NAV screen control scheme isnt really as bad as it seems. There are dedicated controls for temp, seek, volume, etc, but presets, changing discs and the like are handled through the NAV screen. Granted its not perfect, the RX330 is much better in that respect, but it's not a huge deal, at least imo.
Jul 22, 2004 (6:00 pm)
The current MPV was introduced for the 2000 model year. The 2004 model comes standard with a 3.0 liter V6 rated at 200 hp. Not at the top of the heap by current V6 standards, but it appears that they at least gave the mouse steroids.
Jul 22, 2004 (6:34 pm)
a few pages back, and it seemed pretty heated up there...whew!
Anyhow, I do want to comment on a few things:
talon95--you said: "...expensive Altima" look... along with its "next generation Chevy Impala" inspired roofline, the Infiniti standard "mouth full of braces" grille and those really gawdawful taillights, this car doesn't grab me at all."
-The only resemblance I see to the Altima is the roofine. I don't think that the rest of the car looks like the Altima. If anything, I see more G35 coupe in the rear and FX in the front--although I'll admit that the tailights need to be reduced; I like the Fuga concept's rear more.
Also, as for the "downmarket roofline" comment you made in another post, well, by the same token, I guess I should dog on the A6 for having a roofline similar to the Passat. True?
Could you explain to me what "appliance-like instrument panel" is? I have a GE Profile fridge, and I certainly don't think M45 instrument panel when I look at it!
FWIW, I think that the RL's styling is okay--but nothing to write home about--for the segment, but I think it's too much of a hodge-podge of different vehicles thrown in a blender, and that was the end result. The TSX and TL have more of a common theme going on with the crisp edges, but the RL is just a bit bubbly, I can't help but think it'll probably look out of place, but that's just me. The interior is nice, but that center console is too cluttered, IMO.
Just my opinion...