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You are in the Acura RL
What is this discussion about?
Acura RL, Sedan
Apr 09, 2004 (4:56 am)
I take it you prefer to "feel the road" while driving like most Acura/Honda fans.
In addition to my LS400 and Avalon, I also own a 2003 Honda Odyssey, by the way.
So how come you're not "acuraguy" instead of "lexusguy"?
I always thought that people buy Acura just because it's cheaper than Lexus.
But somehow I now realize that the reason people buy Acura is because they like the way the Acura vehicle feels. Nobody is wrong, just personal preferences. Gotta respect people for their own individualism.
I did personally THINK the 04 RL had the BEST looking front Dash of any sedans out there. The NAV screen was a little dim, but not too bad. But I wish they'd kept that great looking front dash of the 04 RL.
One interesting fact I read was that the 05 RL has genuine real woodtrim instead of the usual synthetic woodtrim. No big deal, but interesting.
#1861 of 7386 04 RL front dash
Apr 09, 2004 (5:20 am)
sorry, but it looked like a 1996 honda accord !!
#1862 of 7386 i changed my mind, but i'll change it again tomorrow
Apr 09, 2004 (6:08 am)
tomorrow, i go to the show and see it in person.
but after looking at the pics posted on acura's website, i think the design grew on me a bit more.
maybe i got it wrong, but some of the pictures make me wonder:
1. the rear tail lights are a mix of LED & non-LED?
2. the brakes that you see through the wheel design appear large, how much smaller can the wheels get?
3. the big fat joystick nose in the console, is Acura going to provide us with their version of BMW's iDrive? (for the record, I love iDrive and think people are just nuts not to appreciate the fact that they have little control left over their own lives and technology, good and bad now completely drives our lives)... an Acura version might be gooood considering even the earliest of Acura's Nav systems were legions ahead others in their usability functionality.
4. Will it make me reconsider my 530i buy coming up this year end? likely.... I'm fairly dissapointed by the quality of a fairly new bmw in the family right now. it is the best car to drive, but finally, when you take the car out of the garage and it creaks and its got only 12K miles and less than one year life.. ya know that's not good.... and despite the controversial new shapes, i honestly like about 90% of the bangalized new bmw's... but again, back to acura, i think, the design is a tad too conservative, but its growing on me... lets see what I see tomorrow in person
#1863 of 7386 Not sure if I asked this here before....
Apr 09, 2004 (8:39 am)
If you go to the Acura.com website, they have a gallery of RL pics. Scroll through the thumbnails until you find one that is a close-up of the taillights. (Ksoman, it's probably the pic you just mentioned.) Click on it and take a close look.
Key point: Note that above the taillight there appears to be a flattened section of sheetmetal, forming a little ridge above the taillight and also on the trailing edge of the trunk. I like it. In all the other pics, the sheetmetal blends smoothly into the taillights (no ridge).
Do you think it's posible Acura still has some styling changes they are considering? There are pics that are blanked out on the site, which must provide clues about other features. This one might have slipped through.
Apr 09, 2004 (8:44 am)
How could anyone who admires Acura's styling call the new STS a bore? Before the TL debuted acura never made an attractive sedan. The new RL looks nice, but its no revolution in styling. It's about time that Acura started paying some attention to styling. The TL has a better interior than the CTS, but the CTS is RWD which will always give it an advantage in the magazines, plus its more distinctive looking and I think Cadillac's brand image is one step above Acura, and infiniti for that matter.
The STS' interior looks low rent? Compared to what? Also, its important to remember that unlike Acura, Cadillac has a common design theme amongst its vehicles, that could be one reason the STS looks like the SRX. Acura and Lexus do something different with each model.
Apr 09, 2004 (10:28 am)
Thank you again for the posts. I find that most of them do really bring up interesting points (although I would gladly do without some of the skirmishing a couple of posters seem to be wrapped in!). I wanted to reiterate my earlier comment on the new RL design. I mean this is not a groundbraking WOW type of look, but as others comment as well, I believe it will grow on us quite a bit. Again, I think this is the real styling strategy at Honda/Acura 'make the car look good not for 1, not for 5 but even for 20 years later (and classics are born!!). It just makes completely sense that a company that prides itself in building durable cars that are enviromentally friendly would not frenzy in giving the latest 'pret a porter' knowing it wold be out of fashion as soon as next season (personally I believe that will be the case of the new altima and numerous others)! Call it Honda's mantra or philosophy but it is one of the reasons I like these cars well knowing that they are most fun to drive. Finally let me touch again on the fact that at this point it is really imprtant to see how the SH-AWD feels. I am sure that this alone (ride characteristics) will make or break this model and the company strategy to avoid V8 engines to achieve those performance/gasoline consume/ emission goals that in an age of appalling corporate culture Honda continues to beckon to the rest of the automotive world. Well I better stop the praise (hopefully not an eulogy) here and just partake to the the RL style discussion by offering the following link:
#1866 of 7386 Just saw more pics..
Apr 09, 2004 (10:49 am)
and it is growing on me BIGTIME. They have a gorgeous gold one on display at NY and it looks very sleek. The pictures I've seen up to this point don't do this car justice. Another site I visit has a nice digital collection of all the NY cars in large digital format (autospies) and believe me it makes a difference. Here are the pics in case you haven't seen them (click on the thumbnails to get them supersized)-- I was impressed at how nice this car looks:
http://gallery.dealerrater.com/gallery/shows.asp?galleryId=5&- - - manu=Acura&Submit1=Search
I think this will be one of those cars that has to be seen in person to get a real feel for if you like it or not. I just wish I could find pics of a light interior color -- I don't like black interiors at all.
Apr 09, 2004 (10:55 am)
Again, you're wrong as usual. Acura does have a design theme started with the TSX. The front grill and rear door look awfully similar, right?
"but the CTS is RWD which will always give it an advantage in the magazines, plus its more distinctive looking and I think Cadillac's brand image is one step above Acura, and infiniti for that matter."
Not always an advantage. Car & Driver didn't test the CTS because it was priced above the TL. Also, Cadillac's brand image isn't ahead of Infiniti. Have you looked lately? You're overexaggerating once again.
"How could anyone who admires Acura's styling call the new STS a bore?"
People have different tastes, duh!
"The STS' interior looks low rent? Compared to what? Also, its important to remember that unlike Acura, Cadillac has a common design theme amongst its vehicles, that could be one reason the STS looks like the SRX. Acura and Lexus do something different with each model."
The STS' interior isn't low rent, just uninspired. And who cars that Acura and Lexus do something different with each model? They still sell don't they!?! Again, there goes your biased opinion against imports.
Apr 09, 2004 (12:20 pm)
Whenever I pop into the Future Vehicles board and see the number of new posts in this discussion, I'm thinking, "uh oh. flame war." But, thanks for not making this discussion a horror story and staying largely on-topic!
Let's just keep it that way and try not to take things personally.