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#1208 of 7386 Gee, thanks for the great new RL
Feb 17, 2003 (3:23 am)
I must assume that someone at Acura checks these boards to keep a finger on the public's pulse. Therefore let me express my complete disappointment with the lack of a totally new car for 2004. At hondanews.com they rave about the sales figures for the other Acura models but strangely say nothing about the RL's sales figures for 2002. Plus the news releases for the 2004 RL mostly gush about the stupid new radio thus proving there's really nothing to get excited over for 2004.
In short, Honda you blew it. 2004 should have been the year for an all new RL. I love my 2002 RL but will go out of my way to encourage anyone who is considering a new RL to simply avoid the 2004 altogether. Besides, there's still a few 2002's sitting on dealer lots (not to mention 2003's). Buy one of them and save some $$$$.
I've now finished my rant. Good night.
Feb 17, 2003 (9:21 am)
Go to autosite.com. RL sold twice that of the RWD V8 Infiniti Q45 in January. Also sold more than the Infiniti M45, Audi A8, V8 Lexus GS430. It's not just for January - it's been that way for a while.
You can see why Honda is reluctant to go RWD and V8 with the RL, not just to stand behind their philosophy, but because unless you're Lexus, BMW or Mercedes, V8 and RWD doesn't sell.
Feb 17, 2003 (11:22 am)
probably has more to do with the mid-level car price rather than the RL's "quality." On a level field, I can't think of buying my RL -- which I like just fine -- vs. the cars you mentioned, diploid.
Feb 17, 2003 (4:56 pm)
I agree with jwilson. If you use "volume" as an indicia of quality or consumer preference, that indicative factor can be very misleading. If one can buy a Q45, M45 or A8 for the price of an RL, you will definitely see a tremendous surge in volume of these other great automobiles.
The RL is a fine car at a mid-30s price tag, but suffers from lack of technological improvements. Honda has to do something quickly if it wants to retain RL followers, who have spent good money in buying a flagship car, which supposedly is the torch bearer of the Honda/Acura nameplate.
#1213 of 7386 If Honda does come out with a winner
Feb 17, 2003 (5:13 pm)
I'd like to see them name it the "Phoenix."
Feb 17, 2003 (5:41 pm)
I think the name "Phoenix" is very appropriate for the "torch bearer". It needs a lot of flames, heat, light and energy to re-ignite the dying RL.
Joe, you are such a poet.
Feb 17, 2003 (6:35 pm)
Would be just fine with me.
#1216 of 7386 Volume as quality measure
Feb 18, 2003 (7:33 am)
I can agree w/ the point of kennyg5 about price driving RL volume, but have to question including M45 in that group of cars listed. And people complain about RL styling? I'll take conservative/bland styling any day over retro/ugly.
You could really say that pricing drives all car volume, whether it be $20k or $45k. What car wouldn't have higher sales if the price was dropped 20%. Even the Pontiac Aztek might.....no, I not sure even that would help move that design.
Not disagreeing with the point, just don't think the M45 fits with that group of cars.
Feb 18, 2003 (8:55 am)
I'll stick with kenny's examples: there is nothing any of us wouldn't like in the M45 beneath its skin .... just like the WRX and a new onslaught of pretty 'unlovely' performance vehicles that we all like, even with their odd looks, for their substance )).