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#7997 of 8465 Executive quote
Nov 05, 2005 (7:09 pm)
My memory is not what it use to be. However, to best of my recollection, it was the then president of Toyota (1994-95) who stated that the Camry should not be a luxury vehicle. There was never a mention of reliability. In 1995, the Camry had lost some "luxury" features that made it feel like a more expensive car. I think I have some of the information at work. lmacmil's observations are pretty acurate. It might be a little off topic, but the outgoing president of Honda stated a couple years ago that Honda had lost its vision or direction. He said that they were trying too hard to compete with Toyota. President's say the "darndest" things.
#7998 of 8465 Re: 05 Camry Purchase [lmacmil]
Nov 06, 2005 (4:34 am)
I agree I think the intent of the message from Toyota's executives was more oriented towards quality vice reliability. I specifically remember a line in the article about the ashtray in the Tercel, and how they were trying to make the ashtray the best in the world when it didn't need to be.
Quality can be defined in a number of ways ...
2 a : degree of excellence : GRADE b : superiority in kind
For the intent of the article I believe the above definition taken from Merriam-Webster most closely fits.
I also clearly remember when the 4th generation Camry came out many in the automotive circles spoke of how the new model had suffered from "decontenting".
Keeping all this in mind, I still believe that the Camry represents one of the best choices for a mid-size car. I do believe it isn't quite up to the standards of the 92-96 generation Camry, but when compared to the competition it still beats most of them in terms of reliability and quality.
I also believe that reports about it's perceived diminishing quality, while they may have a certain degree of truth to them (as evidenced by my previous points) ... the personal accounts are somewhat disporportunate to real-world statistics.
This quote from another on-line forum is a perfect example of the point I attempted to make earlier.
I am sick of reading people review this car (Tercel) as if it has the standards of an Acura Legend or Lexus ES300. This car is made specifically for someone who needs efficient transportation.
Though this quote is about the Tercel, it applies equally to most Toyota models (with some exceptions like the Avalon which is a near-luxury car).
#7999 of 8465 Re: From love to Hate - Why Toyota Dealers deserve their poor reputation! [
Nov 06, 2005 (5:02 pm)
I agree with Phd86's reply. You should try another dealer, hopefully one with a better reputation and attitude for service, to resolve the problem. The problem should be covered under warranty, regardless of whether you used aftermarket batteries.
The survey you sent to Toyota Motor Corporation on your service experience is returned to the dealer with the intention that the dealer will treat their customers better in the future. So of course, "it's on file," and so is everyone else's, whether it's positive or negative. It's not supposed to be used to beat you over the head or treat you as if you have a criminal record. Sounds like a dealer to stay away from.
Clearly, unless you've got a bad run of batteries, there's something causing the batteries to go dead so quickly. Similar to what your neighbor said, on my former 1990 Mercury Sable, there was a short circuit inside the alternator that was killing the battery overnight. I had to leave the negative cable disconnected until the cause was found, so I could start the car in the morning.
#8000 of 8465 Re: Creaking Steering Wheel [haefr]
Nov 11, 2005 (9:21 am)
When I turned on Car Talk last Saturday, believe it or not the first question was from a lady with a 2004 V6 like mine who complained about the same problem. She said her creak sounded like a "duck". The brothers kidded her about calling and taking up time with a harmless problem. They attributed it to plastic parts rubbing together. They also said that if the noise was not constant (it goes away after it warms up) there was nothing to worry. As for the service dept. I think the manager should have said something to me after the 3rd time I had it greased to explain what was causing it and why it was not a problem. The service advisor said that he would talk to the mgr about it but I never heard anything from either of them. So service at this dealership is good but no cigar yet..
#8001 of 8465 Re: Sulpher Odor - Constant [ktybluegreen]
Nov 11, 2005 (9:35 am)
I have had the same 'rotten eggs' (fart) smell on my 03 Camry V6. From the beginning I have used Shell Vpower premium which is also what I put in my 4cyl 2001 Protege. Have only had the problem with the Camry, usually occurs after I have slowed down from speed. It was intermittent in the first year of driving but since then its been a rare occurrence. The dealership told me it was the gas too, but when I said my other car used the same gas they said it was a problem for cars after 2001 (convenient answer)
Nov 11, 2005 (10:28 am)
though I have no details, I believe a TSB exists...
#8003 of 8465 transmission problems
Nov 12, 2005 (6:36 am)
How do I know if the transmission is failing on an older model Camry?
#8004 of 8465 Re: transmission problems [joanie3]
Nov 12, 2005 (10:19 am)
C'mon, Joanie, give us some information to work with. We're not mindreaders. What's the car doing (or not doing), what year car, and what service history on the tranny?
#8005 of 8465 Re: Sulpher Odor - Constant [edmund2460]
Nov 16, 2005 (3:59 pm)
The TSB covering the sulpher odor is:
EG011R-04 MAY 05 Exhaust System - Objectionable Sulfur Dioxide Odors
Information can be located at:
#8006 of 8465 i think my driver power seat is busted...
Nov 21, 2005 (12:49 pm)
my driver's seat will not return to 90 degrees but does go down fine...how do i get it fixed...its 99 camry