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#7842 of 8465 Toyata Camry 2005 vs !999 Camry MPG etc
Jul 27, 2005 (4:03 pm)
I recently purchased a new 2005 Toyota Camry LE four cylinder. It has about 600 miles on it. I had a 99 Camry which got immediately about 28 miles per IMPERIAL gallon in city and about 38 miles or more on highway. NO BREAK IN PERIOD on the 99 camry was necessary to get this high fuel economy. I based my calculations in both cases on the trip odometer and IMPERIAL gallons (Canada)
The new Camry gets about 20 miles per gallon with air conditioning on in city.
They tell me the new Camry has 7 horsepower more and an Alexis five
speed automatic transmission. There is also an aluminum block engine now.
The 2005 Camry pamphlet shows fuel consumption 28/44 which bears no resemblance to my mileage.
Could all these so called improvements cause this bad fuel economy?
In addition I noticed the suspension is not smooth over minor bumps and car bounces around.
The current car was built in USA and the 1999 one came from Japan.
#7843 of 8465 Re: Toyata Camry 2005 vs !999 Camry MPG etc [meteore01]
Jul 27, 2005 (6:51 pm)
The Camry 4-cylinder's horsepower went from 133 in 1999 to 160 in 2005 on US models. I would assume Canadian models to be similar. The engine block went from cast iron to aluminum with the 2002 redesign, and displacement increased from 2.2 liters to 2.4 liters at that time.
My 2004 Camry LE with the 4-cylinder, 4-speed auto (that I just gave to my son) got stellar fuel economy: about 23 mpg in the city and 35-38 mpg (US) on long trips.
So far, my replacement 2005 Camry XLE with the 4-cylinder, 5-speed auto isn't doing as well: as low as 21 mpg in the city and only 31 mpg on long trips, with 4200 miles on the odometer so far. The cars don't differ much in weight. We'll see what happens over time.
Both the 2004 and 2005 models rode/ride quite smoothly.
#7844 of 8465 Crackle Pop in Widows.....
Jul 28, 2005 (10:44 am)
I HOPE there is a solution! I have a the 'vibration' noise in my ear periodically since I got my '02 three years ago. Of course the dealer never could hear it but offered to use tephlon lube in between the gaskets where the window goes up. Well the noise has gotten much worse and my window tops actually have a line where the goo was. I cleaned everything; even used a toothbrush to get the goo out ouf the gasket where the window goes up. The tics are now worse. There is no doubt the dealer will hear the noise this time but I do not think the goo is a solution. Note that it quiets a little if I put the window down 1/8 inch or so. It stops if push the inside of the window outwards while driving. I am due for an oil change and I dread going in because everytime I go in I have a new rattle related complaint...some of which have been corrected or at least made better.
If they do not 'hear' this one or fix it, I am having a Toyota rep come in.
If anyone has had this issue and has a DIY fix, please post as I would like to eliminate the problem on my own as opposed to multiple trips back to the dealer, dealer rep, Toyota etc. I bought the brand to avoid this nonsense!.
#7845 of 8465 Re: Toyata Camry 2005 vs !999 Camry MPG etc [210delray]
Jul 28, 2005 (12:21 pm)
I was under the impression that the XLE model designated it was a 6-cylinder.
#7846 of 8465 Re: Toyata Camry 2005 vs !999 Camry MPG etc [meteore01]
Jul 28, 2005 (12:23 pm)
If you have only 600 miles on your vehicle, that means what? One and a half tankfuls? You need to wait until the vehicle is truly broken in before you can start taking measure of efficiency- probably around the 2500 mark. Just relax, and give it time.
And the above post is correct- the 2.4L is a completely different engine than your 1999's, and the difference in power should be apparent. The 97-01 were quite slow, in my experience, and bordered on underpowered.
#7847 of 8465 Re: Brakes... [andrelaplume]
Jul 28, 2005 (12:44 pm)
geez, you might not need front disc pads for at least 90K or so. I didn't change mine on my 1994 camrys till 120K or so. The rear drums were still origionals at 197K (sold it) and just gave away my other 1994 camry with 203K and it had the orig drums. as for rotors, it costs anywhere from 20 each side to 50 or so depending on manufacturer. easy to replace and I wouldn't turn any rotors. I'd toss and buy new ones. that's my 2 cents.
#7848 of 8465 Re: Toyata Camry 2005 vs !999 Camry MPG etc [meteore01]
Jul 28, 2005 (12:47 pm)
just got a 2005 LE and although extremely short distance (78 miles), I got 28 MPG with a city/highway mix (mostly city). I have driven more highway (about 275 by this weekend) and I'll calculate the MPG with more of a realistic period. I bet you get 35 or more on the highway only. Hang in there. The camry will come across.
#7849 of 8465 Re: Toyata Camry 2005 vs !999 Camry MPG etc [kenym]
Jul 28, 2005 (12:48 pm)
nope. can get 4 cyl version too.
#7850 of 8465 Re: Toyata Camry 2005 vs !999 Camry MPG etc [alpha01]
Jul 28, 2005 (12:49 pm)
gee, you should have owned two 1994's with 4 cyl. it was 125 HP and I had to open the door and use my foot when the AC was on going up hill. my mom has a 1998 and it's way better than the 92-96 versions.
#7851 of 8465 Re: Toyata Camry 2005 vs !999 Camry MPG etc [chevymalibu]
Jul 28, 2005 (1:12 pm)
They were basically the same engine and I noticed almost no difference between the two. We had a 95, 97, and 00 (leases, obviously). Current is an '02 (not a lease, or the 64K miles would put us in trouble!!).
Honestly, I'd say the 95 was actually quicker, or at least, felt quicker than the 97s and 00s, which had additional emmissions equipment and weight over the Gen Three models.
Despite still not being as quick as a current generation Accord 4, the 05 Camry 4 cylinder is plenty strong, especially given its efficiency profile. (The current hits 60 1-2 seconds quicker than the Gen Four Camrys).