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#494 of 609 Re: My 2002 Optima has a water leak thru "snout" into A/C & into interior... [lhsheets]
Aug 31, 2006 (11:03 am)
I have a 2003 Hyundai Sonata - same car except for badging, front and rear styling, and upholstery fabric and tailoring differences. If you have fewer than 60,000 miles on your car and registered it under your name for first use less than five years ago, you just might have a warranty claim. If so, at the very least, I'd contact KIA U.S. for an opinion. You'd also have the legal route if you care to pursue it. No automaker warrants normal "consummables" (those items expected to deteriorate/fail in regular service) such as brake pads, spark plugs, belts, hoses beyond the first year, but a case might be made that a sealing gasket to prevent condensation water intrusion in the A/C system might not rightfully be considered a normal consummable. Before going the lawyer route, you also have the right to enter arbitration through the BBB. Their finding is binding on KIA, but not you - you could still go the legal route if the BBB's arbitrator rules against you. The service is free for the car owner (you). Contact your nearest Better Business Bureau for info about getting a claims form. (All this is also spelled out in the warranty supplement booklet required to be provided by all automakers doing business in the U.S. If you live in the U.S., that booklet would've been packed in the document folder placed in the glove compartment prior to delivery. Best of luck.
#495 of 609 Re: Kia Ft Ends [capt4]
Aug 31, 2006 (7:48 pm)
If you buy a fram oil filter, get the better one. The low priced fram is so crappy they should void the car warranty.
#496 of 609 Re: Kia Ft Ends [frankl1955]
Sep 01, 2006 (2:12 pm)
There's been a lot written about Frams on the internet. While I'm not particularly impressed with the construction of entry-level products from Fram, they do work despite unsubstantiated rumors of poor quality control. I'd say they're the best $1.39 oil filter I've ever come across that sell for $2.79 at discount... What I have been favorably impressed with at a very reasonable price are WalMart's "SuperTech" line of synthetic blend filtration media oil filters that sell for $2.07 nationally. These are made by Champion Labs (no relation to Champion Sparkplug Company). Now that GM spin-off supplier Delphi is on the rocks, most current AC oil filter production has been assigned to Champion Labs. The SuperTech filter for current Hyundai and KIA applications that take a spin-on design is the 3593A. (That's a Fram number, but the SuperTechs are NOT made by Fram.)
#497 of 609 how about maintenance and problems on an 05 or 06?
Sep 22, 2006 (6:26 pm)
Hello all, I'm new to this forum, and I'm considering an 05 or 06 Hyundai Sonata, or Kia Optima.(used) I need a family vehicle to last for around 3+ years. In my area, there is approximately a $1000 difference for an Optima(cheaper)
What about the warranties? I talked to a Kia dealer today, and he said the 5/60 bumper to bumper does transer, but the 100k powertrain doesn't on Kia.
Oh, and when I say maintenance and problems, I am really good on oil changes every 3000 miles and that's about it. I really don't like to do other things, but I get around to it every once in a while. I don't like dealers, so can an independent work on these things?
#498 of 609 Re: how about maintenance and problems on an 05 or 06? [73chevyimpala]
Sep 23, 2006 (9:41 am)
I own an '03 Sonata V6. Hyundai's 100K powertrain doesn't transfer to subsequent owners either. What remains of the 5/60 warranty on either make will NOT be jeoparized if you or an independent shop does your car's routine servicing. A federal law, the Magnuson-Moss Act of 1975, protects consumers from being held hostage by automaker or dealership abuses while under warranty. (Look it up on the FTC's website.) You do have the responsibility to log what you've done and when, and keep materials receipts for lubes and routine replacement parts in the event you have to submit a powertrain warranty claim if less than 60K miles. I keep a medium size spiral-bound tablet with my hand-written logs in the glove compartment along with a string-tied plastic folder with my receipts. Like you, I'm also a throwback to the glory days when 3,000 mile oil and filter change common sense ruled. I still have trouble believing that allowing contaminants and oil breakdown byproducts (acids, varnish, and sludge precursors) to accumulate for 7,500 miles won't hurt anything in the long run. If you have an independent shop do your routine servicing, that's fine, too. Just keep the receipts and make sure they indicate what was done and what was used.
(One final note: if you purchase a new or late model Hyundai or KIA, pay particular attention to automatic transmission fluid if you wish to top up or flush. These vehicles require a Mitsubishi spec ATF: "SP III". Unfortunately, Mitsubishi has not licensed the formula for blending and distribution through common retail channels. The only retail sources for SP III ATF are Mitsubishi, Hyundai, and KIA dealership parts departments. [Actual automaker brand is irrelevant as long as "SP III" appears on the label.] Substituting commonly available "Dexron III" or so-called "universal" ATFs is an invitation to a $2,500.00+ rebuild that will not be covered under warranty. This is the only critical fluid I'm aware of for these vehicles. For other fluids and lubes, use whatever you're currently satisfied with.)
#500 of 609 05 or 06 Optima or Sonata
Sep 24, 2006 (5:35 pm)
It looks like my problem is being solved for me. I looked on edmunds price guide and it appears as if there is a $3000 rebate for the 06 Optima which puts it in the 14k range, but then when you go to incentives it only lists a much lower rebate, maybe a 1000, which means both the optima and sonata end up in the 17k to 18k range. I don't think I'm spending that much on a new Korean. I think I'd rather buy a used Korean with maybe 10k miles for 11k. Huge discount, and still get an 05, 06.
#501 of 609 Re: how about maintenance and problems on an 05 or 06? [ray_h1]
Oct 28, 2006 (10:12 pm)
I have watched you posts and appreciate you knowledge
which borders on either a mechanic, car buff or even
a Kia - Hyundai plant. I know dont get in a huff you
last told us that the Ethanol i posted was not true
Unfortunately, two national newspapers wrote about this
after I posted, having said that , you are at least offering
a good free service to those of us who may or may not service or know how to service a car.
I would like to update all on the ft end story in another post
#502 of 609 Re: Kia Ft Ends UPDATE Oct 06 [capt4]
Oct 28, 2006 (10:22 pm)
This is my latest post for this issue
I made at least 5 trips to the dealer sometimes they felt
and heard the sound. Other times they could not, thanks to
a very knowledgeable, Kia Tech he found the TSB from Kia
and claimed its an unofficial / official problem on 04's and maybe some 05's
Its either the right or left front strut housing clamps?
Top? bolts ? whatever but they finally replaced it and so far the noise and sound ( like a broken motor mount has gone
away) GET THIS DONE before you hit 60 K miles or you pay for this.
They will also replace the bulbs which is caked
with mud from not being sealed on the low beam bulbs
Warranty before 60K again. All in all Kia is striving to
become a Korean Lexus customer service dealer. Know that
Kia is seriously looking for customers satisfied. If you
find you are not happy with the dealer try another one
They will bombard you with customer surveys, as to how you wee treated. My dealer is absolutely great. They have
done it all to make me a happy camper.
#503 of 609 Re: how about maintenance and problems on an 05 or 06? [capt4]
Oct 29, 2006 (8:10 am)
)) "...either a mechanic, car buff or even a Kia - Hyundai plant..." ((
Not a KIA/Hyundai plant - retired optometrist, more or less car buff, and amateur internet gadfly.