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Kia Optima, Sedan
#388 of 609 The reliability ratings are a hit with Toyota and Honda
Aug 09, 2003 (11:18 am)
and other high-price makers as far as their image goes but my view is that I want a car to look a certain way. The Korean cars are great looking and yes, get a tad worse gas mileage. You'll fare better in a crash with a Sedona than in a Sienna though. The new '03 Optima is nice looking with the separated front turn signal lamps this year instead of the schmeared-in look of the '01-'02. I liked the intial Optima's too, though. A lot-I almost bought a 2001 but the one I wanted in Pearl White was gone when I got there. Missed it by an hour. I held onto my Sephia(it was running great)and traded for a Sportage almost two years ago. These surveys are showing Hyundai in a better light lately but Kia is still lagging. A closer look will reveal basically nothing in your hassle of owning one, though. That's my point-the survey's are basically similar to a Continuous Quality Improvement meeting at work. Fine for a moment then the impact of them fades like the Chicago Bulls fortunes after Michael Jordan left the squad. Dudes and dudettes-get a Kia if you want a great deal on a handsome vehicle with a generous Warranty.
#389 of 609 Car Quality
Aug 09, 2003 (2:41 pm)
The quality ratings as reported by JD Powers or Consumer Reports can be misleading and distorted. I recall reading that Mercedes poorer quality was blamed on their SUV and one other car model. But yet, when a company such as KIA receives a poor rating there is no explanation that the brand was tarnished by the Sportage, for example. So when these things come out, I take them with a grain of salt.
I currently have an Olds Alero where the lease is up next year (2000 with about 42,000miles). I enjoy driving the car a lot -- but if you want to talk about a company cutting corners, using cheap production parts and hoping for planned obsolence ---- GM takes the cake. The alero was introduced in 1999 to take on Camry and Accord. To this day there are problems common to most Aleros -- water leaks, warped brake rotors, cracking head gaskets, vibrating mirrors, heating/ac motors that fail.....the list goes on and on..... I've had all these replaced under warranty....but now that my warrantee is used up,,,I'll live with them until I turn the car in. I actually tried very hard to purchase a Sonata -- but the dealerships in NJ were so unaccomodating that it became a nightmare and I said the heck with it. It looks like I will go for either a Sonata GLS or KIA Optima SE (I like the Kia looks better, but Kia does not offer traction control).
#390 of 609 claims/substantiation
Aug 14, 2003 (8:36 am)
"You'll fare better in a crash with a Sedona than in a Sienna though."
Wheres the evidence on that one?
#391 of 609 i love my Kia
Aug 15, 2003 (11:25 am)
I can't understand the "worst on the market" thing. My friend has had more problems with her Nissan Altima (same year as my Kia) , and I don't think it looks as good. Plus, she paid alot more... My 2002 Optima SEv6, Pearl white, tan leather interior and moon roof is such a beautiful car and I love it! People stop me in parking lots and ask "what kind of car is that?" they love how it looks. The ride is great, comfortable and have had absolutely no problems. With the great looks, excellent warranty and performance, along with super price, it is a great value for the money.
Aug 15, 2003 (11:49 am)
Its all about averages. On average, the Kia will have worse reliability than the Nissan. However, you seemed to have gotten one of the few good Kias and your friend got one of the few bad ones. "Few" out of 100's of 1000's that are made will still be a relatively high number in both cases.
#393 of 609 do the right thing, buy a kia!!
Aug 16, 2003 (4:31 am)
Whats all this babble about some stupid consumer confidence thing? I have written ya'll several times singing the praises of kia and apologize for not writing sooner. I have a 99 sephia with almost 90k on it and its been wrecked three times and runs like a clock. ALSO my wife has a 2002 optima 4 cyl se pearl white, and all we have done to it is rotate the tires, change the oil, and replace (under warranty) a fog light bulb. Dont forget- when kia overrated their horsepower, they gave extended warranty. My dad worked for GM and would not buy their crap. I am having trouble with gmac mortgage as well. My next car (after the 120,000 power train warranty) runs out will be a Kia. P.S. my wifes car gets stares every where it is parked. Elliott Parrish, Belmont,MS
#394 of 609 Ya mean Kia is offering extended warranty coverage because
Aug 16, 2003 (12:00 pm)
big bro HYUNDAI inadvertently listed their own car's hp ratings too high? I'm pretty sure Kia was not part of that, umm...scandal a while back. But, since they're 51% owned by Hyundai Hyundai may be agreeing that for good PR they'll give the extendo-warranty coverage. Check with your local dealer if this sounds too good to be true. The Long Haul Warranty is already industry-leading regardless of what Jeep and Suzuki keep spewing. They say in their ads that they offer "America's Best Warranty.' What are they smoking? Both of the mileage coverages are lower than Kia's. Go figure, eh?
#395 of 609 My Second Optima
Oct 09, 2003 (2:58 pm)
...is in my driveway. After more than 41K trouble-free miles of pleasurable driving I traded in my '01 Optima LX and bought a new '04 Optima EX - the new designator for the previous SE model.
This seemed noteworthy enough to ask the moderators to re-open this board. I've been happy with my KIAs. I got this '04 straight off the truck. I had to take delivery the next day so I could grab this one that was equipped right, I-4 with leather interior, and the right color, Pearl White.
#396 of 609 serpentki, I haven't read a post from you in literally years!
Oct 09, 2003 (11:06 pm)
Where ya been? So you're on your 2nd Kia now? So am I-I traded my '99 Kia Sephia for a 2001 Kia Sportage 4x4 and I continue to be impressed by this very solid little SUV. So did you get 5-speed transmission again? Didn't your old one have a stick?
#397 of 609 Actually I'm On My Third KIA
Oct 10, 2003 (6:06 am)
Initially I had a Spectra but traded it when the Optimas came out. So now I have my second Optima. This one is an automatic, but you are correct, my first had the 5-spd.
I had too many start-stop freeway trips through Los Angeles and made the 5-spd a pain. I'm glad to see the I-4 now comes with the SportMatic dual-gate shifter. So far I like this transmission.
Ilu, it is nice to see you and some other familiar names still on this discussion board. I have had very good luck with all my KIAs, actually I think it is more Korean engineering skill than luck though.
It was a few months back a friend of mine that owns an automated machine shop rode in my Optima. He has been very impressed with what the Koreans are doing presently. He opened the panels of a new Korean milling machine to show me how well it was put together. Then he showed me a similarly new Japanese machine. The difference was amazing. As a tech type I could appreciate what I saw. Those Koreans are really putting out some amazing products.
Similarly, when I brought my new Optima to work this week a group of folks from the Japanese Defense Force, who are in for their annual testing, were very intently looking over my Optima. I know they were impressed with how many Japanese cars are being driven here in the US, I could see by their expressions when looking over my Korean-built car that they were concerned and probably thinking to themselves, "look out." It's obvious they were impressed with my car, but concerned.
The new climate control system is a nice feature. I also have an '85 Nissan 300ZX Turbo, too old for my commuting but a great weekend sports car, it has a climate control system but is never as controllable as a manual system. The Optima's allows me much more control over the ducting, fan, and settings, all the control of a manual system plus being automatic.
Another nice new feature is the automatic dimming rearview mirror. I do most of my commuting during the night hours - if you recall, I drive about 150 miles to the air terminal and home each way once a week and remain at my island workplace for a week at a time - this new dimmer really works great for eliminating glare from headlights in back of me, then returns to a normal setting allowing better visibility when the glaring lights are gone.
I think this new Optima and I will get along just fine. I'll keep the board updated about any praise or complaints I might have. My '01 Optima was just terrific. This one is even better.