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You are in the Kia Optima
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Kia Optima, Sedan
May 30, 2001 (3:10 pm)
I'll ignore what ever that was in 110. Funny, people see certain brands as untouchable in quality and others as junk. My experience with my cars and friends/familys cars have never been perfect.
1998 Ford Mustang GT/power seat shorted out and a recall
1998 Ford Crown Vic/two recalls and traded in for bad transmission dealer couldn't fix
2001 Lexus GS300/Tires replaced with large bulges in the side, roofline trim coming off, fog light fell off
2001 Cadillac Escalade/wood trim keeps coming off
1994 Toyota Corolla/bad wind noise from poorly designed seals, recall, window regulators broke twice
1993 Chevy Blazer/bad leaf springs, broken hinges on back window
1994 GMC Sonoma/computer went bad, a/c switch broken first day
1995 Mazda 626/new transmission after two years
2001 Chevy S-10/brakes replaced, computer chip replaced
So, from what I've personally had and seen I don't see any perfect manufacturers. I'll admit Kia was not on my list of cars to consider not long ago, not even Hyundai. But, so far, 4000 miles on my Optima and I'm totally satisfied. Guess Cadillac, Ford, Chevy, Toyota, Mazda, GMC and Lexus just happen to make one bad car each and get them to me and my friends. Oh well.
#116 of 609 Not bad for 3,000 moving parts per car
May 30, 2001 (8:19 pm)
Has anyone ever heard the line that the average car contains 3,000 moving parts (I suppose they're just roughly counting moving parts not the countless stationary ones)? This sounds close enough to me to be believable so this is my point to ponder. Harryalb2 has made a nice list of his past vehicles and their problems. Does anyone ever get a thought that manufacturer's are doing quite well producing how they are now? If you look past Ford/Firestone's winning combination (!!!!) Just kidding-sort of. I'm REALLY STARTING TO WONDER ABOUT OUR FRIENDS AT FORD. They had a hand in these rollover problems. Duh! Back to what I was saying about manufacturers in general. With all those moving parts in motion on an average car that's a lot of friction and a lot of action going on whenever the vehicle's moving. They're going to mess up. The two recalls and one warranty-covered electronic part that decided to die on my '99 Kia Sephia were replaced in a total of about 3 hours at no cost to me. Add some general maintenance time and what's the problem? If Kia tried to hide a real problem I'd be upset but they haven't. Speaking of recalls the Optima was recalled, harryalb2. Did you hear about it? I think it's all Optima's in this it's initial production year. Sorry! Perhaps you've already had it fixed. Still, if you have a decent dealer coupled with the Long-Haul Warranty you'll be taken care of.
#117 of 609 1 Moving Part Really Counts
May 31, 2001 (6:04 am)
... the owner/driver. If only people would learn more about cars, how to drive them properly, and how to maintain them over time. If the average Joe or Jane wouldn't mistreat or abuse their cars so much, they'd have fewer problems. How many take the time to fully read the owner's manual? How many Explorer owners took the time to look at the tire pressure/weight limit tag built into the door jam?
#118 of 609 The new model cars
May 31, 2001 (6:06 am)
It seems to me that many new models likely to
have some bugs and those bugs will be fixed
when they are recalled. And ofcourse, NO ONE
is perfect. I believe there are some more bugs
on the very new models that we don't really know
and those bugs will be fixed on the next year models and I will have to wait and see how my
wife's future car the new "2002 optima" doing...
May 31, 2001 (8:40 am)
Iluvmysephia1, I know about that recall. Been checked, nothing to fix. I wasn't trying to rag other makes in order to improve my Kia image. My only thing was that some posts are so ignorant in their belief that Kia is the "only" car manufacturer that had problems in the past. I admit, I'm sure my Optima will have little things come up over time, but it isn't the first or last car to do so. Kia, and Hyundai, had problems, and they've made wonderful improvements to fix those problems. We'll have to wait and see how the future holds up, but if anyone really believes that buying some other manufacturers car will exempt them from problems, then I wish them luck.
#120 of 609 Harryalb2
May 31, 2001 (9:30 am)
I totally agreed,
NO ONE is perfect. 10 years ago hyundai
was a piece of junk, the cheapest car
in the world and the lowest quality car
in the world also. But, Hyundai today is
second to none. The price, Value, Workmanship
and quality they are improved. I beleive today
car is better than yesterday car and somedays
the Korean cars will be on the road more and
#121 of 609 One moving part really does count.......
May 31, 2001 (8:38 pm)
and I feel that this country also lets 16 year olds grab the wheel way too easily. I'm starting to favor the 18 year old starting driver age. The fast pace of today's traffic and the lack of driver skill and judgement continues to threaten us all. I'm driving in the nation's 2nd worst traffic(Seattle area-2nd only to L.A.)so I see just about everything out there. Just like my simulator instructor in 10th grade said I would. He was right! The continuous thrill to have to go 10-15 mph over the limit is not only annoying it's dangerous. Throw some moronic truck drivers with moronic bosses into the mix and I-5 is one big nightmare to drive. Even at 10:00PM it can be crowded on Seattle's freeways(!!!!!) I do agree that reading one's owner's manual and following maintenance procedures is super important and we know it was partly to blame for the Explorer rollovers. Really. No, I wasn't insisting that Kia wasn't perfect enough. I'll never try and give that impression. I was simply stating that cars are sophisticated machines with many parts interwoven and meshing and moving and they're gonna grind and fail here and a there. Especially with the need for electric wiring going here and there. A lot of recalls are really being over careful but that's cool, isn't it? The Kia Sephia ones I've been involved with have gone breezily and easily and I'm glad they were taken care of for me. Happy motoring Americans!!!
#122 of 609 Guess what iluvmysephia1
Jun 01, 2001 (8:18 pm)
Did you check autonews.com today? Guess who's ahead by 46.% May to May. It isn't F or DC or GM it's KIA. Hyundai also did 34.% better. "Oh gosharoooooney Buffahhhlo Baaaaahb, I just can't understaaand it" "What do youuuuu saaaay, Clarabelle?" Honk...honk... "Where's Mr Bluster?"
"Gee, Howdy, I think he went to the Kia dealer to buy a car"
Jun 01, 2001 (9:10 pm)
It's all coming up roses for 'da S.Korean boys! I can even enjoy it without being able to access The Hyundai Connection website and sprayin' glorious Kia graffiti around! Don't raise your prices Kia! Employ generous use of robots! Keep your smokin' big factory clean! What's more, The Guess Who and Joe Cocker are preppin' for a 41-city U.S. tour! I musta fell off the right sideda 'da bed!!!!!
#124 of 609 Road & Track Article
Jun 08, 2001 (5:13 pm)
Check out the July 2001 issue of Road & Track. Has a strange one-page first drive review of "the all-new Kia Optima". Odd that there is no mention, no whatsoever, of its Hyundai Sonata roots. Article doesn't mention Hyundai or the Sonata. Does talk about the Porsche-licensed Tiptronic manumatic shifter. And says "Kia says that a largerer-displacement V-6 is on the way for the 2002 model year."