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#870 of 3081 2002 S60 T5 vs 2003 Acura CL-S vs. 330I vs G35
Jan 07, 2003 (3:35 pm)
I saw the post from redfive2112 comparing the CL-S to the S60, but does anyone know how it compares to the 330 and the G35? I am guessing the Volvo has slower acceleration, but if there are other major drawbacks, then I would like to know.
I have already test driven the BMW and Infiniti and both cars are awesome, but a little out of my price range (I need to save $ for a bike). The Volvo looks fine, but comfort, power, and handling are very important to me as well. I was hoping for a coupe, but I may have to settle for a sedan.
I'm going to test the S60 T5 tonite, but sometimes it's a little hard to tell from a test drive.
Jan 07, 2003 (4:55 pm)
I test drove a T5 about 5 weeks ago when I was trying to pick out a new sedan. It's quicker than I expected, the turbo 5 packs a pretty good punch (though the G35 and 330i are quicker). You say comfort and handling are both important to you, yet those two things are often at odds. The G35 and the 330 lean more towards handling, while the S60 leans more towards comfort (and it's a front wheel drive, if that's important to you). The car I drove had the Valvetronic transmission, and I thought it was a bit slow to change gears in manual mode. It has some nice little perks in other areas. The trunk is deceptively deep. The seats were the most comfortable of any of the cars I tried out. The rear headrests can be flipped down with a switch on the center console to improve your rear view when there are no rear passengers. Plus, as you say, money is a factor - and the 2002 Volvos are going for cut-rate prices right now, as the 2003's are already out. Since money is an issue, make sure you call your insurance company and get quotes from them on your top two or three choices, as there can be surprising differences. The G35 is classified as a "high-performance vehicle" and actually costs more than the 330 to insure. I also tried out a Cadillac CTS, Audi A4, and Acura TL-S before deciding on the G35. It comes down to the comfort/handling preference. Do you want a luxury-sport car (S60, A4) or a sport-luxury car (330, G35)? Of course, the money is a nice choice too. The dealership I was at was advertising $5k off MSRP on the 2002's, and I'd imagine you can do better than that.
#872 of 3081 stereo upgrade
Jan 07, 2003 (8:04 pm)
Can anyone comment obbjectively on the quality of the stereo upgrade in the S60? I've read it is truly amazing. Unfortunately, my local dealer had no cars on the lot with the upgrade, so I couldn't hear it for myself. I superb stereo can easily shift the balance for me. (Currently considering G50, 330xi, Saab 9-3...)
#873 of 3081 s60 t5 w/ 17" wheels
Jan 08, 2003 (11:43 am)
I'm thinking about leasing a s60 t5 in the next couple of months. I was going to get it with the 17" wheels, but have been told not to because of potholes. I live in NJ and the roads can sometimes be rough. Any suggestions?
#874 of 3081 stereo upgrade (repost)
Jan 08, 2003 (12:03 pm)
*so many typo's in my original post...how embarassing!*
Can anyone comment objectively on the quality of the stereo upgrade in the S60? I've read it is truly amazing. Unfortunately, my local dealer had no cars on the lot with the upgrade, so I couldn't hear it for myself. A superb stereo can easily shift the balance for me. (I am currently considering G35, BMW 330xi, Saab 9-3...)
Jan 09, 2003 (9:13 am)
Hmmmm. Comfort, power and handling. that pretty much sums up this car's strengths in order of achievement.
Supremely comfortable car, thanks to the seats, driving position, phenomenal Prol Logic system and quiet ride.
Power? This car in manual form is simply a brute. The Geartronic takes away quite a bit of the intial accelaration but it does make up for it in the end. The Volvo is good off the line, but it positively honks to 100mph, faster than any sedan in its group and just .3 behind the S4. That, my firends, is a true display of power. If you can find a road to use it.
Handling is average. I have the Sport suspension and 17" wheels (Thor), I find the steering is very good but sometimes lacks feel in aggressive driving. It has a lot of grip and is very good in slalom but quick transitions can be tricky. Of course, this is all relevant at 9/10ths driving or at the limit. Otherwise, it has a much better ride than the 330i and G35 and pretty much equal to the A4.
Lastly, if you want a coupe, I think the silhouette of the beautiful S60 should help! Good luck but they aren't any losers in this crowd of cars. they are all fantastic.
#876 of 3081 dmarcus48
Jan 09, 2003 (9:20 am)
I don't know what diff there will be, if you hit a pothole, I would think regardless of rim it will damage whatever size rim. Like I mentioned above I have the 17" Thors and the car looks stunning in black with these rims.
#877 of 3081 rghessel, welcome to Volvo!
Jan 09, 2003 (9:25 am)
In all seriousness, the Dolby Pro Logis system, the only car to have this system (still?) is phenomenal, and this coming from an audiophile. i had a 99 Mustang GT prior with the Mach 460 and also have a 2002 Explorer Eddie Bauer with the JBL and these two systems are laughable compared to the Volvo.
As Edmunds wrote in their review, the clarity and surround sound can bring tears to your eyes. you must find a system to test...you simply will not beleive your ears! From amazing highs to young punk quality bass, this system has it all.
The only system that was remotely close at the time of my purchase was not the BMW (average and tinny) but the jag X-Type with the optional Alpine system was remarkable.
#878 of 3081 Dolby Pro Logic Stereo
Jan 10, 2003 (11:03 am)
Is the stereo upgrade in the S60 the same stereo in the S80?
You have NO idea how much influence an awesome stereo can have over my car purchase.
The S60 has moved to the top of my list, neck and neck with the Saab 9-3 Arc (which isn't out yet). Then to decide...T5 or AWD? Any thoughts?
Jan 10, 2003 (11:50 am)
I think the issue is that with a 16" wheel there's more side wall to absorb the shock than with a 17" wheel. But thanks for your reply anyway.