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#3031 of 3076 Re: 2012 Volvo S60 T5 NO SPARE TIRE - FLAT TIRE Horrible experience. [qbrozen] by dwightex

Oct 18, 2011 (12:23 pm)

Replying to: qbrozen (Jun 04, 2011 4:46 am)
We also had a flat tire at 70 mph at 9 PM in a remote area of Rt 66. Volvo was quick to respond with a tow, but they brought a flat bed tow truck, when I drove the car up the flat bed, it ruined the rim and cut the ABS Brake line, cost me $1050 to fix. Car had 6000 miles. Tow driver said that it was the third Volvo he has towed since the car has no spare.

#3032 of 3076 Re: 2012 Volvo S60 T5 NO SPARE TIRE - FLAT TIRE Horrible experience. [angryvolvoownr] by dwightex

Oct 18, 2011 (12:32 pm)

Replying to: angryvolvoownr (May 19, 2011 7:51 am)
same problem, 2012 s60 T5 with 6000 miles, flat tire for no apparent reason while travelling at 70 mph. light came on, "Tire pressure low" we pulled off on the shoulder, tire was low, but not flat, tried to get to the next exit, finally tire flat, pulled over. Called Volvo , they sent a tow truck in 55 minutes, remote part of VA Sunday night 9 pm. Flat bed tow truck arrived, had to drive the car on to the back, which ruined the rim and broke ABS line, cost me $1050 from dealer to fix. This is my first flat tire in over 30 years.

#3033 of 3076 Re: 2012 Volvo S60 T5 NO SPARE TIRE - FLAT TIRE Horrible experience. [dwightex] by qbrozen

Oct 18, 2011 (2:32 pm)

Replying to: dwightex (Oct 18, 2011 12:23 pm)
why in the world did YOU drive the car onto the truck?? That would be a serious violation of the tow truck's insurance policy, not to mention, as you found out, it put YOU at liability for the damage, when it should have been the towing company's responsibility.

#3034 of 3076 Re: 2012 Volvo S60 T5 NO SPARE TIRE - FLAT TIRE Horrible experience. [dwightex] by gregg_vw

Oct 18, 2011 (2:48 pm)

Replying to: dwightex (Oct 18, 2011 12:32 pm)
Furthermore, why wouldn't you use the can of fix-a-flat in the trunk if the tire was low rather than flat? If you had, then driving on it may not have flattened it by the next exit. Just saying.

#3035 of 3076 Re: 2012 Volvo S60 T5 NO SPARE TIRE - FLAT TIRE Horrible experience. [dwightex] by vwdawg

Oct 19, 2011 (8:29 am)

Replying to: dwightex (Oct 18, 2011 12:23 pm)
Hi All: My understanding is that not only Volvo, but some of the other manufacturers are using this "no spare tire" crap on new vehicles. I think they are using a "more storage space" rationalization, but I would suspect that it's really a "let's generate a few additional profit dollars". Very disappointing, especiallly from Volvo with their time honored safety mentality. I don't believe that this 'fix a flat" BS represents safety in any sense of the word. I love my two S60s, and it will be some time before I look into buying a newer one, but if I EVER end up with a vehicle with no spare, the first thing I will do is purchase a spare rim and tire....not taking any chances with this miserable fix a flat baloney. vwdawg

#3036 of 3076 Re: 2012 Volvo S60 T5 NO SPARE TIRE - FLAT TIRE Horrible experience. [vwdawg] by gregg_vw

Oct 19, 2011 (2:26 pm)

Replying to: vwdawg (Oct 19, 2011 8:29 am)
The spare tire is an option. So order it when you get your new S60. Eliminating the spare doesn't just reduce costs, it reduces weight. I have been driving for longer than most people have been alive, and I have had a flat or two. But with almost all of my 29 vehicles, I never had occasion to remove the spare from its storage. Those spare tires and wheels add up to a lot of weight carted around for 40 some years. I fully understand that a spare may be a bit of insurance that most people might want to have anyway. But given my experience, I am willing to go along with Volvo's plan. I love my T6 that much.

#3037 of 3076 VOLVO 2012 S60 T5 1ST OIL CHANGE AT 7,500 MILES? by bkvolvo

Oct 25, 2011 (6:38 pm)

I Currently have over 4,000 miles on my 2012 s60 t5 with 5 year maint. free. I was a bit suprised that the Volvo dealer stated that volvo wouldn't pay for the first oil change until 7,500 miles. The volvo maint. supervisor stated that if your puchased the car (which I did), then you should pay for an oil change at 3 or 4000 miles. I'm wondering if waiting till 7,500 miles would be too long and may cause damage? I'm hoping someone has insight into this matter. Most of my mileage is city driving in NYC. Is volvo saving themselves money or is this normal oil change practice?

#3038 of 3076 Re: VOLVO 2012 S60 T5 1ST OIL CHANGE AT 7,500 MILES? [bkvolvo] by alltorque

Oct 26, 2011 (1:51 am)

Replying to: bkvolvo (Oct 25, 2011 6:38 pm)
7500 miles for first oil change is fine - and it is, after all, what Volvo say; never mind what someone else may say. Here in Europe we seem to be allowed much longer oil-change intervals with the same engines. My Volvo S60 D5 has an oil change every 18000 miles or annually whichever comes first - and that's an '06 model. It's first oil-change was at 18000 miles. Life expectancy for the engine is somewhere the far side of 250k miles. USA oil-change intervals seem to be locked into the era of non-synthetic oils and are a money maker for all concerned but bear little resemblance to reality or actual need.
 
Could go on but need to go out.

#3039 of 3076 Re: VOLVO 2012 S60 T5 1ST OIL CHANGE AT 7,500 MILES? [bkvolvo] by qbrozen

Oct 26, 2011 (6:22 am)

Replying to: bkvolvo (Oct 25, 2011 6:38 pm)
7500 is completely normal these days as far as "manufacturer recommended schedule" and it is all the free maintenance will pay for, of course.
 
If it was a car I purchased, I agree with the service advisor, and I would pay to get an interim oil change. However, that's just for this first time. I'd pay at 3500-4k, then get the freebie at 7500 and continue on a 7500-interval after that. But I'm a bit anal about my cars. Most people would say 7500 for the first is fine.

#3040 of 3076 Re: VOLVO 2012 S60 T5 1ST OIL CHANGE AT 7,500 MILES? [qbrozen] by alltorque

Oct 26, 2011 (9:53 am)

Replying to: qbrozen (Oct 26, 2011 6:22 am)
First oil change at 3 - 4k achieves nothing other than increasing someone's profit. Modern engine design & build processes do not leave lots of particles in the engine and metallurgy and lubricants are light years better than they used to be. Biggest problem with new engines is getting rings/bores to "bed-in" properly due to manufacturers using full-synthetic lubes on the line and most owners not knowing how to run-in engines anymore. Europe uses the same engines, and lubricants, as you get in Volvo, VW, Audi, BMW etc etc but typically have oil-changes specified by the manufacturers at 18 - 20,000 miles - gasoline or diesel - and we are not destroying engines as a result. The only caveat is that you must use the correct viscosity and specs as defined by the vehicle manufacturer. "Cheap and near enough" probably isn't either in the long run. Why would you spend £40k on a lovely new whatever and then try to save a couple of Dollars on the hardest-working component...........engine oil.
 
The whole short oil-change thing is a racket designed to separate consumers from their Dollars. One of the very few areas in which Europe is ahead of the USA.
 
End of mini-rant.

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