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#3016 of 3081 Re: 2012 Volvo S60 T5 NO SPARE TIRE - FLAT TIRE Horrible experience. [angryvolvoownr]
Jun 04, 2011 (3:46 am)
OK... I'll say it ... you only have yourself to be mad at. You said you knew it didn't have a spare before you bought it, and you still bought it. Experience itself or just searching the net would have told you that a can of fix-a-flat is a terrible thing anyway. It should never be used unless it is some sort of dire emergency and you are prepared for the consequences of a gummed up wheel and tire that need to be dismounted and cleaned out. Believe it or not, some people CHOOSE to run around with no spare for the weight savings. Volvo certainly didn't know you aren't one of those people.
#3017 of 3081 Re: 2012 Volvo S60 T5 NO SPARE TIRE - FLAT TIRE Horrible experience. [angryvolvoownr]
Jun 04, 2011 (6:38 pm)
Again, I am sorry you did not have a good experience. But you are talking a flat tire..a rotten inconvenience, but one of many, many in life. You are angry, but you do have to feed that anger to keep it going. Your tire is fixed and your life is full of many other complexities.
I am prepared to live with the possibility of being delayed hours by a flat, in order to have this car. That judgment of course is based on 45 years of driving, in 29 different vehicles I have owned, countless miles, and one flat tire...which I drove on to a service station.
Probabilities being what they are, it would be nice if the rare event in my life was winning the lottery. In my case, it was having a spouse die after only three years together. That is life.
Meanwhile, I love the adaptive cruise control on my S60 (I drove in heavy traffic in Minneapolis last week and did not brake or accelerate once...the car did it all). I love the real time traffic nav...it routed me through the twin cities at rush hour in a way that I was not sitting in traffic for even a minute...that seems like magic. The seats are the most comfortable of those in the too many cars I have had. It is quick, quiet, and I am averaging over 26 mpg overall. Would I like it even better if it had a spare? Yes! But I had a car for almost nine years that I sold in March, and it still had the original full size spare (and matching alloy wheel) that had never been out of the trunk. I'll take my chances, and if I get nervous, I will buy a spare. My trunk rarely has much in it anyway, and if I need to load it to the gills, I will take the spare out for that occasion.
I don't think you are at all stupid (you refer to your stupidity), but I do think it odd you are still angry. Anger is a useful emotion I think, but it is usually quick to come and quick to go...unless you feed it. I hope you have a fun and festive weekend.
#3018 of 3081 Tires for an 2005 S60 T5
Jun 15, 2011 (5:24 pm)
I am new to the forum and glad to be aboard. I use Edmunds all the time but new to the forum. Anyway, I have a 2005 Volvo S60 T5. I need new tires. I am a driving enthusiast, I drive hard, fast and a lot. I'll put on 30,000 miles a year or more. Most of it is city driving but I do take a few raod trips. I live in St. Louis. Weather isn't bad. We will get some snow but it melts 2 days later. The street crews do a fabulous job of clearing the streets. I've been researching tires, and the more research, the more it gets confusing. Do I get H rated or V rated? What brand, etc. There does not seem to be that many V rated for a Volvo in a 235/45/17. The 2005 Volvo S60 came out of the factory with Pirelli P6. There are more choices in an H such as a Michelin Pilot Exalto A/S, Yakahoma AVID ENVigor, Continental Extreme Contact DWS which all got great reviews. Please help me. By the way, I called Volvo and they suggested a V becasue thats what they came out of the factory with. As Led Zepplin sang, Dazed & Confused. Scott
#3019 of 3081 Re: Tires for an 2005 S60 T5 [scotts07]
Jun 16, 2011 (5:55 am)
Unless you are taking it to the autobahn, h rated is more than enough. I assume you want all season. I had an older model of the Continental Extremes on my S70 T5 and thought they were great. I've never found Michelins to live up to their name. Always disappointed. I've had good and bad luck with Yokohamas. Running a set of Advan Neovas on my GTI for the summer. I like them quite a bit so far.
Look on tire rack. I plugged in your size and limited the choices to any all season tire with V rating or higher. There are 25 to choose from. Cheapest being Sumitomo HTR A/S. I had a set of Sumitomo summer tires on my G35X for a while. They were quite good. Wore like iron. Very grippy. The Kumho Ecsta ASXs aren't bad, either. I used those as my 3-season tires. They weren't however, good in the snow. Quite lousy, in fact. But if, like you say, snow is not a major concern, the worth taking a look.
#3020 of 3081 2003 S60 with flickering instrument panel
Jun 18, 2011 (7:55 pm)
I have a 2003 2.4T S60 that has an intermittently flickering instrument panel. All the dials go dead for a second, then come back on normal. Also, the turn signals seem to not click or show any arrows when I signal left or right. Again these are intermittent. I also see a SRS check airbag message.
Any hints on what could be the cause? Any way to fix without going to a dealer?
#3021 of 3081 Re: Tires for an 2005 S60 T5 [qbrozen]
Jun 19, 2011 (7:18 am)
Thanks for the response back. After days and days of research including TireRac as well as a couple Volvo Forums, local tire stores etc. The tire that kept coming up was the Continental Extreme Contact DWS. That's what I'm getting an anxious to try them. Thanks again.
#3022 of 3081 Re: New S60 T5 in the garage [poeti18]
Jun 20, 2011 (8:51 am)
Hi poeti18: Thanks for the FYI...someday I hope I can do the Euro-thing!
A couple of other thoughts... I can understand angryvolvoowner's rage over his tire issue, but I agree with gbrozen...not fair to condemn the entire vehicle or the manufacturer for one stupid design flaw. As I suggested in an earlier reply on the tire issue, what if your wife or girlfriend was the one driving the Volvo with no spare, late at night on a deserted road, and flatted? You would lose a lot of points on that one. I would NEVER drive a vehicle with just a can of fix-a-flat...completely stupid idea, and I trust that Volvo will get a lot of nasty feedback and take care of this problem immediately. Otherwise, get a real spare even if it takes half the trunk space!
Finally, wondering if anyone can provide some suggestions for a CEL issue on my 2001 S60 non-turbo. The scan code is "ECM-4201: Three way catalytic converter efficiency, power deterioration". Can anybody decipher this one and let me know what the solution might be? Could the converter
be bad? Thanks to anyone that might have some ideas here. vwdawg
#3023 of 3081 Re: New S60 T5 in the garage [vwdawg]
Jun 20, 2011 (12:48 pm)
it certainly seems to be telling you it is the cat. However, I'm not so sure it can actually test it. I'd be more inclined to replace the O2 sensor first.
#3024 of 3081 Re: New S60 T5 in the garage [vwdawg]
Jun 20, 2011 (6:15 pm)
To each his or her own as to what is a stupid idea. Volvo made a call, and based on probabilities, they are likely right. Yes, who wants to be on a road late at night with a flat? However, flat tires are so improbable these days that, while possible, the chances of having one in your life now is almost non-existent.
And what with cell phones and included auto assistance, the old time flat tire scenario is not the same. My mother tells about getting a flat way out in the middle of nowhere--miles to any town or even house. Some guys driving by stopped as she had gotten the car jacked up, but could not loosen the lug bolts. A big guy came over and said to her, "Mighty lonely out here." Then he changed her tire and wouldn't take a nickel for doing it.
Most times, things work out one way or another. Maybe some day somebody somewhere will gather the data to show whether or not the lack of a spare in this otherwise wonderful car put more lives in jeopardy than justified by the savings of not carrying around an item that in most cases is destined never to be used and will some day be added to a landfill. But of course the spare is an option. For those who want or need one, order it. And bottom line, enjoy the car.
#3025 of 3081 Re: Shift knob trigger broken [debbiered]
Jun 22, 2011 (7:44 pm)
Volvo S60- shifter trigger cracked. Fixed with bike tire inner tube.
Good easy cheap fix. First duct tape broken plastic piece to keep spring from protruding. I used the inner tire tube from my abandoned mountain bicycle. Cut a section about 4 inches long. Turn it inside out, more uniform color, and pull over shifter. If you donít have a bike you can buy an wide inner tube (not 10 speed tube, too narrow) for about $6.00.