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#3011 of 3074 2012 Volvo S60 T5 NO SPARE TIRE - FLAT TIRE Horrible experience. by angryvolvoownr

May 19, 2011 (7:51 am)

I expected a lot more from Volvo!!! i will NEVERRRR buy/lease or anything with volvo again!!!!! I just got a 2012 Volvo T5 S60, and of course there is no SPARE TIRE! I got a flat tire at 10pm right after you pass the tolls in RFK bridge (aka Triboro), right before the lanes merge from the toll booths, driving speed 25 miles an hour. Waited for 3 hours to get towed by two tow trucks, and waited for 3 dayssssss to get the tire replaced at manhattan volvo dealer. what a waste of time and grandious inconvenience. i made it home 1-2am in the morning that night. The bullsh***tire can of fix a flat did not work at all, nor did the air pump. the pothole was nothing different from the standard ones that other cars were passing through easily, but my volvo tire with their 'SAFETY' in mind built showed its strength by failing and going flat. the Manhattan Volvo dealer told me that 99% of the time you have a flat tire with new S60s you will have to replace the tire and pay $280+ for tire with service...etc. Can you belieeve thisss???? I spoke to one of the Volvo representatives named Jordan or something, about the inconvenience, and asked for a doughnut-shaped tire and you know what he said, not explicitly but implied: BUYERS BE AWARE!!! we dont care what happens to you for as long as we sell you the car and you are stuck with. he said you should have noticed there was no spare and not buy the car. So much for customer service. I did notice there was no spare, but i thought since volvo provides the fix a flat thing i should be ok, since volvo is a "responsible" company, but man...was I WRONG!!!! How can they be responsible when 99% of the time you have to replace the tire because is not fixable.... I WILL SHARE THIS WITH ANYONE I CAN, and RECOMMEND TO ALL MY FRIENDS, FAMILY, COWORKERS...ETC TO NEVER BUY A VOLVO EVERRRRR!!! I Guess cutting corners fits well with their new chinese owners..
 
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#3013 of 3074 Re: 2012 Volvo S60 T5 NO SPARE TIRE - FLAT TIRE Horrible experience. [angryvolvoownr] by gregg_vw

Jun 03, 2011 (2:45 pm)

Replying to: angryvolvoownr (May 19, 2011 7:51 am)
I understand why you were angry, but your experience does not condemn the whole car. I love my T6 and I'll deal with the spare tire situation in order to have it.

#3014 of 3074 Re: New S60 T5 in the garage [vwdawg] by poeti18

Jun 03, 2011 (8:32 pm)

Replying to: vwdawg (May 18, 2011 10:21 am)
Hi vwdawwg,
you will save about 7% off the US price (base), the options cost the same.
I think you can only buy models, which are sold in the US anyway (so, no diesels).
 
Pick up is in Sweden only, but drop off can be done in several European cities.
 
7% savings and free airfare make a great deal.
 
Regards,
poeti18

#3015 of 3074 Re: 2012 Volvo S60 T5 NO SPARE TIRE - FLAT TIRE Horrible experience. [gregg_vw] by angryvolvoownr

Jun 03, 2011 (10:45 pm)

Replying to: gregg_vw (Jun 03, 2011 2:45 pm)
experience condemns the whole car!!! it is all about one's experiences that makes choose one car over another. Also, it is the experiences that lead to customer loyalty or not. if volvo does not want to include a spare tire that weights a mere 35pounds, because it will reduce their claimed 30mpg, then they have a strategic flaw in their thinking that goes against their 'focus on safety' mentality, therefore misleading to customers like me. isn't Volvo supposed to give its customer peace of mind?? If customer inconveniences do not count for their decisions in designing the car then why should one ever deal with volvo again even if they make an overall good car? I am not married to volvo to love the car. volvo is a product like any other, and it should be reliable. it should not fail you when it matters. it should not waste your life and leave you in the hands of different tow trucks, and many days at dealers for a stupid spare tire. I know other car companies are doing the same, but is it not about differentiation and not being a crown follower?
 
I hope you are not as lucky as I was, but once you get stuck for 3 or more hours from one tow truck to another, and deal with the dealer back and forth for 3 days to fix a damn flat tire you will think differently of volvo's decision to leave you without a spare tire. IF VOLVO REALLYYYY CARED ABOUT ITS CUSTOMERS, DONT YOU THINK THEY SHOULD INCLUDE RUN-FLAT TIRES AS STANDARD? (like they say; i fell from the tree, so only those who fell from the tree know my pain, others are just bragging until their good luck runs out.) I hope No-One will ever get a flat tire with their volvos while taking someone dear to the emergency room or something like that as they will end up towed and sent to the dealers room...
 
last words...in case you are wondering; even if i buy a spare tire and stop complaining, volvo designed it so there is no place where to put it, it takes the whole trunk space and then it will be a car with a spare tire but no trunk. yeahh thanks for my stupidity to deal with volvo, will make sure to buy a mercedes or lexus next time. (by the way i am still angry and could not resist to answer your comments on this festive friday night)

#3016 of 3074 Re: 2012 Volvo S60 T5 NO SPARE TIRE - FLAT TIRE Horrible experience. [angryvolvoownr] by qbrozen

Jun 04, 2011 (4:46 am)

Replying to: angryvolvoownr (Jun 03, 2011 10:45 pm)
OK... I'll say it ... you only have yourself to be mad at. You said you knew it didn't have a spare before you bought it, and you still bought it. Experience itself or just searching the net would have told you that a can of fix-a-flat is a terrible thing anyway. It should never be used unless it is some sort of dire emergency and you are prepared for the consequences of a gummed up wheel and tire that need to be dismounted and cleaned out. Believe it or not, some people CHOOSE to run around with no spare for the weight savings. Volvo certainly didn't know you aren't one of those people.

#3017 of 3074 Re: 2012 Volvo S60 T5 NO SPARE TIRE - FLAT TIRE Horrible experience. [angryvolvoownr] by gregg_vw

Jun 04, 2011 (7:38 pm)

Replying to: angryvolvoownr (Jun 03, 2011 10:45 pm)
Again, I am sorry you did not have a good experience. But you are talking a flat tire..a rotten inconvenience, but one of many, many in life. You are angry, but you do have to feed that anger to keep it going. Your tire is fixed and your life is full of many other complexities.
 
I am prepared to live with the possibility of being delayed hours by a flat, in order to have this car. That judgment of course is based on 45 years of driving, in 29 different vehicles I have owned, countless miles, and one flat tire...which I drove on to a service station.
 
Probabilities being what they are, it would be nice if the rare event in my life was winning the lottery. In my case, it was having a spouse die after only three years together. That is life.
 
Meanwhile, I love the adaptive cruise control on my S60 (I drove in heavy traffic in Minneapolis last week and did not brake or accelerate once...the car did it all). I love the real time traffic nav...it routed me through the twin cities at rush hour in a way that I was not sitting in traffic for even a minute...that seems like magic. The seats are the most comfortable of those in the too many cars I have had. It is quick, quiet, and I am averaging over 26 mpg overall. Would I like it even better if it had a spare? Yes! But I had a car for almost nine years that I sold in March, and it still had the original full size spare (and matching alloy wheel) that had never been out of the trunk. I'll take my chances, and if I get nervous, I will buy a spare. My trunk rarely has much in it anyway, and if I need to load it to the gills, I will take the spare out for that occasion.
 
I don't think you are at all stupid (you refer to your stupidity), but I do think it odd you are still angry. Anger is a useful emotion I think, but it is usually quick to come and quick to go...unless you feed it. I hope you have a fun and festive weekend.

#3018 of 3074 Tires for an 2005 S60 T5 by scotts07

Jun 15, 2011 (6:24 pm)

I am new to the forum and glad to be aboard. I use Edmunds all the time but new to the forum. Anyway, I have a 2005 Volvo S60 T5. I need new tires. I am a driving enthusiast, I drive hard, fast and a lot. I'll put on 30,000 miles a year or more. Most of it is city driving but I do take a few raod trips. I live in St. Louis. Weather isn't bad. We will get some snow but it melts 2 days later. The street crews do a fabulous job of clearing the streets. I've been researching tires, and the more research, the more it gets confusing. Do I get H rated or V rated? What brand, etc. There does not seem to be that many V rated for a Volvo in a 235/45/17. The 2005 Volvo S60 came out of the factory with Pirelli P6. There are more choices in an H such as a Michelin Pilot Exalto A/S, Yakahoma AVID ENVigor, Continental Extreme Contact DWS which all got great reviews. Please help me. By the way, I called Volvo and they suggested a V becasue thats what they came out of the factory with. As Led Zepplin sang, Dazed & Confused. Scott

#3019 of 3074 Re: Tires for an 2005 S60 T5 [scotts07] by qbrozen

Jun 16, 2011 (6:55 am)

Replying to: scotts07 (Jun 15, 2011 6:24 pm)
Unless you are taking it to the autobahn, h rated is more than enough. I assume you want all season. I had an older model of the Continental Extremes on my S70 T5 and thought they were great. I've never found Michelins to live up to their name. Always disappointed. I've had good and bad luck with Yokohamas. Running a set of Advan Neovas on my GTI for the summer. I like them quite a bit so far.
 
Look on tire rack. I plugged in your size and limited the choices to any all season tire with V rating or higher. There are 25 to choose from. Cheapest being Sumitomo HTR A/S. I had a set of Sumitomo summer tires on my G35X for a while. They were quite good. Wore like iron. Very grippy. The Kumho Ecsta ASXs aren't bad, either. I used those as my 3-season tires. They weren't however, good in the snow. Quite lousy, in fact. But if, like you say, snow is not a major concern, the worth taking a look.

#3020 of 3074 2003 S60 with flickering instrument panel by montanaky

Jun 18, 2011 (8:55 pm)

I have a 2003 2.4T S60 that has an intermittently flickering instrument panel. All the dials go dead for a second, then come back on normal. Also, the turn signals seem to not click or show any arrows when I signal left or right. Again these are intermittent. I also see a SRS check airbag message.
 
Any hints on what could be the cause? Any way to fix without going to a dealer?
 
Thanks,

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