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#2969 of 3074 Re: 2011 S60 [vwdawg]
Nov 01, 2010 (8:58 am)
That's exactly right. One good if perverse way to educate oneself on this matter is to take OSD on a new Volvo in Gothenburg. You do get a full tank of gas when you take delivery of your car, but the first time you have to fill up your new baby with $2.00/liter petrol and do the math, that $8.00 per gallon gas really gets your attention. Furthermore, in many if not most European countries, the car itself is taxed, either when purchased and/or annually thereafter, accordingly to the size and type of engine, i.e. according to its fuel consumption, a sort of progressive gas-guzzler tax. It is only a matter of time before such measures will have to be introduced over here as well.
The other issue about diesels vs. gassers is that, the last time I was in Europe diesel fuel was selling for about 20% less than benzine. I have no idea what the current delta in Europe is, but in the US, diesel is appreciably more expensive than even 93 octane standard fuel. Little wonder that American customers won't buy and car makers won't import and sell diesel vehicles.
#2970 of 3074 Re: 2011 S60 [volvobuff]
Nov 02, 2010 (8:10 am)
volvobuff and alltorque: I have actually considered the Gothenburg (or Madrid) option, but current financial situation will not allow. I assume the Yank bureaucrats allow the Euro-diesels and small gas rigs across the pond, right? Petrol in Minnesota is now around USD 2.80/gallon, and diesel is around 3.10, about 10-11% higher, which would be more than offset by 20 or 25% (?) higher mileage. I bought a new 2005 Jetta diesel wagon in late '04 (42-44 MPG!), and at that point, diesel was a bit less than regular petrol. For some reason, within a few weeks, diesel shot up in price. I'm not a hard core conspiracy theorist, but I can't figure out why diesel is now more expensive than petrol, when for 70 years or more it was cheaper, and is still cheaper in Europe...a move to keep diesels out of the American market? I had to sell the Jetta a couple of years ago due to a couple of kiddies heading to college...still miss that car! Oh well...I'll wait to see what Volvo does over here, and act accordingly. Gothenburg/Madrid sounds like an appealing option. Great day to both of you! vwdawg/volvophile1
#2971 of 3074 Re: 2011 S60 [vwdawg]
Nov 02, 2010 (10:53 am)
Here in my part of the UK, (fairly typical), fuel prices are as follows - to-day :
Unleaded Regular Gasoline : $7.01 per US Gallon equiv.
ULSD : $7.17 per US Gallon equiv.
That's using an ExRate of 1.56USD to 1.0GBP. (Haven't checked to-days ExRate but the get the general drift).
Delta is not that great but the superior mpg of the small diesels rather swamps the slight difference.
Keep smilin', Mein Herr.
#2972 of 3074 New MY'11 S60 and Garmin GVN 53
Nov 11, 2010 (4:52 am)
Would anybody know if Garmin GVN 53 navigation module will work with central console display of new S60?
#2973 of 3074 2012 S60, FWD T5
Nov 17, 2010 (12:52 pm)
Noticed that the 2012 S60 (FWD, T5 engine) is showing up on the volvo site. Priced a little better $32k vs. $37k for the AWD. 300 hp. Doesn't give availability date....I imagine early next year...
#2974 of 3074 Re: Interior gasoline odor, 2001 S60 [vwdawg]
Nov 18, 2010 (10:14 am)
Hello, all: Just a followup to my 8/24/10 post. A few weeks after the fuel pump on my S60 was replaced under warranty, I took a family road trip to Chicago. I was parked in a ramp, and when I returned, noted a puddle of something under my car! A quick sniff confirmed...petrol! Being Sunday, no service available, and needing to get back to Minneapolis, with a bit of trepidation I drove it 400 miles home and brought it back to Borton, my dealer. They started an inspection immediately and found a bad O-ring on the fuel sender unit. Despite this NOT being a warranty item, they stated that the pump replacement should probably have revealed this, so the only charged me $18 for the parts! So...if anyone has their fuel pump replaced, and a proactive move, you should advise your service advisor to take care of the O-ring at the same time. Again...can't say enough good things about Borton Volvo and Chris, the service manager (she's awesome)...here's a dealer that actually goes above and beyond the call! vwdawg/volvophile1
#2976 of 3074 Can Geely be trusted?
Dec 27, 2010 (3:50 am)
Volvo, already financially marginal, is now in the precarious position of being moved lock, stock and barrel to Red China. This, of course, would be brand suicide.
Does anyone trust Geely when they say they will leave Volvo in Europe and not move the whole operation to Red China to maximize profits? One realizes of course that they are not known for telling the truth.
To see Volvo go the way of cat and dog food, baby cribs, brake rotors, etc. would be tragic indeed but this lingering doubt about their veracity (or lack thereof) is keeping me from buying a new S 60 T AWD. A great car but who wants Red Chinese rotors in two years??!
#2977 of 3074 Re: Can Geely be trusted? [priggly]
Dec 27, 2010 (6:16 am)
The previous post is utter Sinophobic paranoia. There is no evidence whatsoever that Volvo is being moved to China. A few models are being assembled in China for sale only in China, and that has been taking place for years, long before Ford sold Volvo to Geely. There are no Chinese-made parts being used in Swedish or Belgian-built Volvos. Period.
#2978 of 3074 Re: Can Geely be trusted? [volvobuff]
Dec 30, 2010 (11:44 pm)
The previous post is utter Sinophobic paranoia.
Utter rubbish and the epitome of denial and departure from reality. You must live in a cave if you have no perception of the negative effects Red Chinese garbage has had on the ongoing fall in quality of the marketplace in virtually every industry in which the "PLA" operates.
Did you even know the "PLA" is the arbiter of the little island of capitalism that had to be created in Red China in order for the place to avoid the fate of Cuba or North Korea?
Try asking a brake mechanic what he thinks of Red Chinese calipers and rotors and then decide if you would entrust the lives of you or your family to them.