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Volvo S60, Volvo S60 R, Sedan
Dec 26, 2004 (4:14 pm)
We definitely are thinking along similar lines. I will not be able to go by the dealership in the morning, Monday, due to icestorm and work, but I did email the very good salesman at Infiniti of Raleigh with VPP pricing on 5 models (2 04's and 3 '05's) even though I think I have pretty much ruled out the '04 G35. I just can't get past the cheap interior of the '04. It is a dealbreaker for me unless he just comes back with a ridiculously low price.
I really do like the '05 G35 and all research I have done shows that Infiniti fixed all the issues from the 03 and 04 models, namely the interior, brakes, transmission sudden acceleration, and exterior mods. I see the engine upgrade as just a bonus that makes it even more difficult.
On the flip side, I have a wife and 2 young daughters so safety is paramount to me. That is why I am really interested in the Volvo along with the unbelievable seats. I have a bad lower back and seat comfort and head room is critically important to me. I am only 6'1" but I prefer an upright seating position to reduce the stress on my low back along with lumbar support. I am only 31 so it is not like I am an old bag but I have had a rough athletic life.
Today I am back to 50/50 on the 2005 G35 and the 2005 S60 2.5t. Another issue will be when I call the Infiniti dealer 65 miles away in Richmond when I get back home tomorrow and see if the Service Mgr. validates what Infiniti of Raleigh told me about local servicing, loaner cars, and drop and pick up service for a fee.
I have a great local Volvo dealer 5 miles from home that is famous for their service and honesty. That is a big issue as well.
Lexusguy, I will be very interested as well to hear what you have to say. I thought you were an Infiniti driver, not a Volvo driver. That surprises me and gives me more to think about.
FYI. I currently drive a 2001 Chevy LT Z71 pickup extended cab w/ leather. Love the seats, headroom and power, hate the gas mileage and safety for the kids.
I have owned a 1999 A4, 2003 325i, 2000 Toyota Land Cruiser, 1998 Volvo Cross Country, and 1989 Toyota Land Crusier, 1991 Acura Legend, and 1994 318i (worst car ever by the way).
This debate really interests me as well Lexusguy. Keep your thoughts coming.
I'll keep posted as the days progress with my thoughts and new info.
#2058 of 3081 Re: billykrebs [aeg]
Dec 26, 2004 (6:05 pm)
Bought an S60 2.5T last fall. Previous Volvos: 1988 740 turbo wagon, 93 850 GLT, 98 S70 T5, 2000 S70 2.5T GLT, 2004 XC90 2.5T.
The S60 and the XC are by far the best Volvos we have owned. For us the back seat room on the S60 is a non issue (I'm 5-7, wife is 5-3). The ride, handling and steering of the S60 is really great.
#2059 of 3081 S60R - To buy or not to buy
Dec 27, 2004 (3:51 am)
I am in the car market and plan to purchase something by the end of this week. Currently I drive a Mustang but really feel like I have out grown it. My wife drives a Expedition...she won't let me drive it. So now I have the opportunity to get what I want (or can afford). I don't want a BMW or Mecedes. Since my brother works for Ford, I get a discount on Ford, Volov, Lincoln, etc. I read everything about the S60R. It seems to be a very nice car. I want something that has good performance but is confortable and quite. What are your opinions about the S60R.
Dec 27, 2004 (7:00 am)
Hi dhc - if you use the "Search This Discussion" feature on the page bar for "S60R" you'll find lots of posts talking about it. That should be helpful to you.
#2061 of 3081 Re: S60R - To buy or not to buy [dhc]
Dec 27, 2004 (8:07 am)
I own an R so i'm a little biased.
Its a really fun car, esp w/ the 6 speed.
Not quite as fast as an M3, but alot less expensive.
Fabulous seats, great AWD system.
Only wish it had more power.
#2062 of 3081 Re: S60R - To buy or not to buy [dhc]
Dec 27, 2004 (9:40 am)
I have a Landcruiser and a Volvo S60. The S60 delivers all that a BMW or Mercedes delivers with more safety - without the higher insurance premiums of the others! Folks like Ross Perot and Bill Gates drive Volvos - some of us dont have anything to "prove"!
#2063 of 3081 aeg, billykrebs
Dec 27, 2004 (10:29 am)
aeg, The XC90 is a great car, I just ultimately dont feel that Volvo's traditional car engines are a good match, hence the Yamaha sourced V8. The problem I have that, as with every other V8 in the class, is mileage in the teens. Thats ok in my XKR mind you, but my wife is disgusted by guzzlers like that. Her next car is going to be an RX400h, which will absolutely take the market by storm. Lexus has pre-orders for over 11,000 cars, and upped their original first year production from an estimated 30,000 to over 60,000.
Could you point me to crash test results on the G35? A few people have mentioned safety issues about the car, but I havent seen anything myself. How do you feel about the Acura TL, by the way?
Billy, tough decisions huh? Ultimately the G and S60 are both great cars, and I really dont think either would be a bad choice. I'm actually not an Infiniti or a Volvo driver. My wife and I currently have three cars, her '01 RX, my '01 LS, and my '00 Jaguar XKR. I used to drive Benzs and BMWs, but very bad experiences with both has pretty much permanently turned me off to Germany. (This is in the days well before iDrive or COMAND, so since things have gotten WORSE, not better, theres just no way I'd go back). I'm rather suprised you got a second 3 series, after that 318i.
The Jag (this is my third Jag drop top) has been ok, better than the previous two, but its not great. I'm waiting to see 1. how the new XK in '06 is, and 2. wether Lexus can make an SC that doesnt put me to sleep.
Since I dumped Germany for Japan in the early 90s, I've been driving an LS every day basically because none of the three Japanese luxury brands and anything that was much fun, and the LS was the most comfortable. However, thats FINALLY starting to change now, and I am thinking of moving back into something small and sporty. Infiniti's new G and M, and the next Lexus IS and GS are going to be my top four I think. I'm not entirely sure what size I want yet.
The current S60 is just a little too small for me, but I've had some experience with the car as I've recommended a few '01s and '02s to friends and gone on test drives with them. The seats are awesome, as is the HU-803 stereo (now 850 I think). If you do get an S60, DEFINITELY op for the premium stereo.
dhc, for the money, the S60R is quite a car. As volvomax said, dont make eye contact with M3 or C55 drivers, but you could dust pretty much everything else on the road...with the stick. With the automatic its not so great.
grantchstr, didnt Gates get in trouble for driving a Porsche 959?
#2064 of 3081 Re: aeg, billykrebs [lexusguy]
Dec 28, 2004 (6:41 am)
Dont know about the Porsche - but Gates apparently drives an oldish dependable Volvo!
#2065 of 3081 Re: aeg, billykrebs [lexusguy]
Dec 28, 2004 (8:07 am)
My understanding is that Gates' 959 sat in customs for about 10 years before it was federalized.
As for his everyday ride, one article says a Lexus.
#2066 of 3081 Re: aeg, billykrebs [lexusguy]
Dec 28, 2004 (9:55 am)
thanks again for all your input. Here is the information you requested about the G35. www.hwysafety.org/vehicle_ratings/head_restraints/head_infiniti.h- - tm. When you view this sight you will see how dismal the rating were for rear end crashes. This is of concern to me as I consider cars other than volvo's for the first time in years.