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#1 of 2937 The Volvo S60 by 17028 Aug 07, 2000 (6:09 am)
Time to start some discussion on this new and very interesting car, don't you think? Here's some stuff to get us going: A long series of pictures of the car, probably intended for the release (August 8th, at 15.00 hours CET): http://www.kamera.com/xvolvo/images/pp/ When will it be in American showrooms? November 1st. Here's some measurements and facts: "The car is shorter than the s70: 4.58 m Other dimensions: width: 180 cm and height 141 m. The car will have the same engines as the V70, 2.4 of 140 and 170 hp, 2.4T of 200 hp and the T5 of 250 hp. Diesel engines will come later: 2.2l of 130 -135 hp and a 2.6l of 169 hp" * I compared this to some other cars. I found that the measurements are very close to the new Mercedes C-class in everything except width, where it is considerably larger. And as the well-known slogan of Pontiac Grand Am goes, "Wider is better." As you might know, the S60 is based on the same platform as the new V70 and the currently available S80. They shortened the platform to create a sportier car. As you might have noticed before, Volvo of North America doesn't bring all the European engine choices here, so you'll probably have to make do with the higher-end options. Another note on engines, the European measurement of hp doesn't correspond exactly to the American bhp. August 8th, that's tuesday, so pretty soon we'll be able to see some video footage hopefully. -17028 * I took this quote from the Volvospy bulletin board because I don't feel like going back to the source (a Swedish newspaper) and translating it right now. I'll do it if anyone is interested in getting some more info though (most of it is covered here). Replies to this message: s6069 (Jun 15, 2005 8:47 am) qbrozen (Jun 15, 2005 9:05 am)
#2 of 2937 . by merc1 Aug 07, 2000 (7:58 am)
Another very likeable Volvo. I'll add this one to the list too. Wasup with that shifter? Where in the world is Rollie? M
#3 of 2937 17028 by ruski Aug 07, 2000 (1:31 pm)
please explain European vs American measurement of HP. I know for sure that on the S80 they measured torque accurately, and it is the same as on the American, GM 3.8L Supercharged engines, 280 lbs*ft. This is because S80 uses the same GM 4-speed auto tranny as Grand Prix GTP, Regal GS, Bonneville SSEi. The tranny is rated for up to 280 lbs*ft.
#4 of 2937 pictures by ruski Aug 07, 2000 (1:39 pm)
Kind of a big front overhang, isn't it? I really like the car though. I hope it will not be too expensive.
#5 of 2937 Re: The shifter by lancerfixer Aug 07, 2000 (6:19 pm)
That is one funky-looking shifter. I like it. I only hope that the manual tranny is offered in the states. Does anyone know if that is the case? Volvo hasn't given us one in the 40 series (where you'd think there would be one) but has given us one in the new V70 (where you'd think there wouldn't be one.) Those crazy Swedes; always keeping us guessing...
#6 of 2937 ruski by lancerfixer Aug 07, 2000 (6:25 pm)
Several months ago (it might even be a year now) in Car and Driver magazine, chief editor Csaba Csere wrote an excellent piece on the differences between American hp and European hp. I can't remember a word of the actual explanation, but I do remember that it was well written, as are most of C&D's columns. You might want to check their website to see if they still have that article.
#7 of 2937 lancerfixer by ruski Aug 08, 2000 (5:09 pm)
I know there is a difference between how they used to measure HP years ago and how they do it now: years ago - just the engine, no accessories. That's why American muscle cars had big HP numbers. now - with accessories attached to the engine. I think nowadays all cars (American and foreign) have their HP measured in the same way. Otherwise how could anyone trust those measurements?
#8 of 2937 ruski by lancerfixer Aug 08, 2000 (5:13 pm)
There are differences in measurements beyond gross vs. net hp. I know the final numbers are very similar using either method; as I recall, one method uses ASE standards and one uses DIN. I wish I could find that article...it spelled out everything better than I ever could.
#9 of 2937 Check this out by amazon Aug 08, 2000 (5:17 pm)
Volvo officially showed the S60 in Sweden today. Sweeeeeeeeeeet. http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/0008/08/volvo.html
#10 of 2937 I just noticed something... by lancerfixer Aug 08, 2000 (6:12 pm)
The back end of the S60 looks an awful lot like an Accord's, particularly the indentation in the rear fender running from the C-pillar to the taillights. Is it just me?

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