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Lexus LS 400, Lexus LS 430, Sedan
#8433 of 8465 Keeping 2005 430 til I or it Dies
Mar 14, 2012 (9:40 am)
Have enjoyed my 2005 LS430 even after having to give up a GS because lease was up. Have driven the LS as I did the GS with almost the same degree of "really" driving. Currently has 80K miles and other than water pump 70K, everything else has been "usual".
Decided to look for possible move to a hybrid SUV to replace this 19mpg 430. Just drove the RX450h. Really made me appreciate the LS all the more. RX is a "really" big truck and the hybrid side of it steals any thought of rapid acceleration. Found that I lost the sense of a "safe cocoon" around the vehicle - too much to watch out for.
Anyway, the reason for writing this note is that trying "on" other car(s) made me return quickly, and with a continuing high regard, for 430.
#8434 of 8465 Re: Keeping 2005 430 til I or it Dies [saborg]
Mar 15, 2012 (9:46 am)
Funny,...I gave up my LS because the RX felt much more like a "safe cocoon". Sit up higher so I look down on the bumpers of those big ass pickups. These days I'll trade acceleration for safety and FE any day of the week.
But in truth I'm holding out for a hybridized Venza w/Atkinsonized DFI I4 and F/awd.
Or maybe even an LS350 using the new GSes HSD system.
#8435 of 8465 Re: Keeping 2005 430 til I or it Dies [saborg]
Mar 18, 2012 (7:00 pm)
I agree with some of those thoughts. I love the 3 LSes I've owned, including an 05. I think the RX is a "girls SUV" and would want a larger one were I to want an SUV. The LS is probably safer, being lower. The other thing I agree on is; the Toyota Hybrids are horrible off the line, or in any acceleration situation. Just unloaded my Camry Hybrid for that very reason. Great mileage, but you can get killed trying to get across the street.
#8436 of 8465 Re: Keeping 2005 430 til I or it Dies [nvbanker]
Mar 19, 2012 (10:25 am)
Just as I would not allow my 10 YO, or teenagers, weigh in seriously on my choice of cars, I would NEVER allow someone else's "label" to bias my decision. I have owned a '98, a '99, and a 2000 Chryler T&C, all F/awd. Gave all of these to my daughter and she only recently sold the 2000 to some very old close friends, old with both meanings. She now drives a 2012 MDX.
Lower is NOT safer insofar as being T-boned.
At my age my driving style is always more in the range(***) of making judicious use of the brakes, not the accelerator. So our 1st gen Prius suits me just fine and I think the acceleration rate of the RXh & HH is a bit much.
*** Not "fast" except on the highway, unless I'm driving the C4. Still not "fast" in city, except for often an acceleration level that makes my wife wish she had stayed home..
#8437 of 8465 Re: Keeping 2005 430 til I or it Dies [nvbanker]
Mar 19, 2012 (10:29 am)
"..want a larger one.."
I wish to go the other way, a hybrid Venza or maybe the upcoming Porsche Macan R/awd. I've been hoping, probably a waste, for a hybrid C-max with the Escape style F/awd.
#8438 of 8465 Re: Keeping 2005 430 til I or it Dies [saborg]
Mar 19, 2012 (10:36 am)
Sorry, LSes simply do not die, our '95 is now well north of 300K miles.
I was forced to give away (family, friends, employees) our '91, 2 '92's and most likely now our '95. Sell or trade is impossible since very few buyers/dealers appreciate the true/actual value. No one but a long term owner will understand the true value of a high mileage LS.
#8439 of 8465 Re: Keeping 2005 430 til I or it Dies [wwest]
Mar 27, 2012 (8:37 am)
LSes simply do not die, our '95 is now well north of 300K miles.
#8440 of 8465 Re: LS430 and Rx300 90K Miles service [lucian95]
Mar 31, 2012 (9:59 pm)
No, I don't think water pump last that long. You can take a chance not replacing it, but the risk is very high. It is suggest the the water pump needs to be replace, since it involved the timing belt. You will saved on the labor charges.
#8441 of 8465 LS 430 v.460
Apr 10, 2012 (6:24 am)
My 2006 LS 430 is getting a little old. Am looking at a 2012 LS 460. Would appreciate comparison feedback on 430 v. 460. Am particularly concerned about driver seat room in 460. I am 6'2" and 240 lbs with multiple joint issues from extended Army time and arthritis. Limited neck mobility in terms of getting into and out of 460. 460 door frame seems lower that 430.
Thanks so much.
#8442 of 8465 Re: LS 430 v.460 [mheni1]
May 25, 2012 (4:40 pm)
It may be too late - I had 2 430s and an 09 460 now. No comparison, to me. The 460 is hands down the most comfortable seat I have ever owned in a car. You should love it. Way superior to the 430s. The 460 is a smidge lower in the roof, you have to duck a little more to get in, but it's not been a problem. I'm 6'0". Highly recommend the 460 in every way.