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Re: Warranty running out [wwest] by nvbanker
Aug 26, 2008 (9:47 am)
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Replying to: wwest (Aug 26, 2008 9:15 am)

But do you PREVENTIVELY install new tires, replacing perfectly serviceable ones, every XXX miles to reduce the potential...??
 
Actually yes, sort of. I won't run a set of tires more than about 4 years or 50,000 miles, even if the tread looks good still. Between the heat damage of the SouthWest, and just how many times the tire should flex before it becomes potentially unstable, I figure it's best to change 'em out. I think Firestone proved my point a few years ago. To avoid devastation of that engine, you bet, I'll change it out at the recommended interval.
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Re: Warranty running out [nvbanker] by wwest
Aug 28, 2008 (11:48 am)
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Replying to: nvbanker (Aug 26, 2008 9:47 am)

"I think Firestone proved my point a few years ago.."
 
No, if you're thinking of the incident concerning the Ford Explorer then Firestone was more of an innocent bystander that inadvertently became a victim. When it was discovered that the Explorer had an unusual propensity for rollover Ford decided that it was to late and too expensive to go back to the design table and decided instead that the rollover propensity could be reduced "just enough" if the tires were under inflated ever so slightly.
 
Under inflated tires, hours of high speed tire flex.....
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Re: Warranty running out [wwest] by nvbanker
Aug 29, 2008 (1:35 pm)
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Replying to: wwest (Aug 28, 2008 11:48 am)

I am thinking of the Explorer incident. But my research revealed that the Ford Explorer only seemed to roll over on Firestones, almost never on another brand of tire. Accordingly, NHTSA cleared Ford. Also, Firestone did have to recall their defective tires made in a plant in Ohio. Ford was not forced to recall anything. It was the tires, which degraded unnecessarily in hot climates.
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Re: Warranty running out [nvbanker] by rgsw
Aug 29, 2008 (3:23 pm)
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Replying to: nvbanker (Aug 29, 2008 1:35 pm)

I remember that Ford recommended 26 PSI air pressure which was far below the 32 or 35 PSI that other SUV manufacturers were recommending with the same size SUV. It made them ride better (read "softer") on the road. However, if you are running recommended car manufacturer air pressure at 26 psi and loose a few pounds (which many of us do), then you are at about 22 or 20 psi and the flexing in heat climate conditions will build up a lot of heat and consequently blowout prone? I alos noted that Ford changed the Explorer's suspension soon after the rollovers started to happen. They went to independent rear suspension. I'd be interested to know what the recommended tire pressure is today on the same size/weight Ford SUV?????
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Re: Warranty running out [rgsw] by wwest
Aug 29, 2008 (5:44 pm)
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Replying to: rgsw (Aug 29, 2008 3:23 pm)

I have always considered that should I ever find myself having to contrive a legal case/defense then I would first look to the lead attorney for Ford in that case as it was pretty clear that they managed to fool the jury.
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wiper replacement on Ls 430 by thomas41
Aug 30, 2008 (4:53 am)
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I don`t know how to replace wiper blades on my 05 Ls. The holding arm does not fold back. I would appeciate your assistance. thanks.
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Re: Warranty running out [wwest] by nvbanker
Aug 31, 2008 (4:11 pm)
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Replying to: wwest (Aug 29, 2008 5:44 pm)

They fooled the NHTSA by proving that you could not tip an Explorer by blowing a tire unless it was a Firestone from the affected lot. Car and Driver tried to do the same thing independently, multiple times. Failed to roll the truck. The difference turned out to be a defective Firestone tire, that under high heat would roll up in the fender well, and stop the rear axle, and sometimes that would flip the car. But blow out anybody else's tire on the back of one, and the car could easily be stopped. Comfort PSI aside, it was the tires, not the car.
 
Today, I'll bet a Firestone is the safest tire you can buy, after all that hubbub. Still don't want one though. And you won't see one on a Ford SUV anymore either. Notice, those old Explorers, though millions of them, are still on the road - are no longer flipping over? It was the tires. Reason demands that conclusion. The trucks were not recalled, the tires were.
 
Sorry to be off topic, but somebody had to defend the innocent here.
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Maintenance Costs for a 2002 LS430 by agreenberg
Sep 19, 2008 (6:58 pm)
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Assuming I buy a used 2002 LS430 with 45,000 miles on it, how much should I budget for rountine maintanence costs between now and five years from now when it hits 95,000 miles? And do I need to factor into my budget unanticipated repair costs, or is the car as bullet-proof as everyone says? Basically, I love the idea of getting an amazing car for only $21,000, but I'm not sure how much I should allot for maintanence and repair costs over the next 50,000 miles.
 
Also, is it okay to save a little money and not get a CPO car? If so, do I hire a local independent Lexus mechanic to inspect the proposed vehicle for me?
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Re: wiper replacement on Ls 430 [thomas41] by lexusnut05
Sep 25, 2008 (6:12 pm)
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Replying to: thomas41 (Aug 30, 2008 4:53 am)

Has anyone told you how to change the wiper (the driver side is the one I cannot remove) if so please let me know as I need to change it bad. Thanks Brian.
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download users manuals for 2001 LS 430. by acco20
Oct 09, 2008 (7:16 am)
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I have the paper manuals for my car but I would like to have them on my computer. I have searched and have not been able to find these downloads. Anyone know of a site where I can get them??? Thank you.

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